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The DNC aren't better than the GOP
The DNC are not good. They are better than the GOP tho. I hate both of them. All of these things can be true.
Better in what salient ways?
Healthcare
Taxing the Rich
Not raping any children
LGBT+ Cabinet positions
The environment
Less Measles
Not raping any children
Etc
"Taxing the Rich"
Gavin Newsom would like to have a word.
Gavin Newsom is standing in the way of a DNC tax bill. Who did you think wrote it? Fairies?
https://lemmy.world/post/39740643
Get off your echo chambers. Read some news
That doesn't dispute anything I just said lmfao
Describe how he has any impact on the liberal party of the past few decades…. Can you only make an excuse based on a recent personality or can you speak to the past few decades?
...? Why would I sit here and talk about his impact? Why would I make excuses for him? He's standing in the way of DNC policy. Get him out, and put a real democrat back in.
That's the point. He IS a real democrat. That's the democrats are and have been for decades and that's what they'll continue to be. These are the same group of democrats that were scared to endorse Zohran fucking Mamdani who would have the most tame manifesto anywhere within Europe all because of what? He wanted to tax the rich? The DNC is infested with these moles. You're not gonna get any serious progress other than rainbow-coloured ones, and even that's looking shaky since the post-Kamala campaign.
Zohran Mamdani IS also a real democrat. His unpopular opponent Cuomo was voted out of the party for *checks notes opposing taxing the rich.
See how that works? The DNC is pro-tax-the-rich. Every single GOP is opposed.
Zohran is not a democrat fam😂. If the DNC was pro-tax the rich then they wouldn't hesitate to endorse Zohran and Newsom wouldn't be rejecting the idea of a billionaire tax. Use your head mate
Zohran won the DNC primaries and ran as a DNC on the ticket for Mayor of New York, which he also won.
Cuomo ran as an Independent after he lost the primary.
Yes that's because VOTERS want something other than establishment democrats. Not the DNC itself. Can you use our head for once?
Voters voted for the Democrat.
The Democrat won, he's mayor of New York.
His name is Zohran Mamdani.
At this point, i can only believe you are being paid to say this stuff
It's hard to imagine somebody like you exists who is so deeply offended by Zohran Mamdani's party.
But doesn’t and has not had an impact on the past few decades….
Try again with your narrow ass ignorance…
Literally the same argument could be made for Republicans you dumb shitlib
FTFY
These libs really think Dems give af about them. There are literal senators and reps voting to give ICE more funding. I don't know when the delusion will end
ICE was given tens of billions of funding via republican reconciliation via the BBB, without a single DNC vote.
Now DHS has no funding currently because the DNC negotiated a government funding bill without it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ql_hWKAEUkE
Check again. Read the pinned comment as well. Your brain has been fried by decades of DNC propaganda
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/02/12/dhs-government-shutdown-update-2026/88644329007/
Looks like we're in different timelines, pal
You seem to be conveniently glossing over the fact the democrats have voted to fund ICE AT ALL. Not beating the fascist collaborator allegations.
The link definitely does address that, directly... We didn't gloss over it.
ICE is under the DHS.
They literally are, just not by a significant enough margin that would matter.
I just don't see the USA getting any progress at all unless the DNC sweep the next election.
Even if we think they, the DNC, are inadequate to represent everyone in this nation, third parties and independents are not a viable option unless we reform elections first (which can and should be done simultaneously). The most independent senators this nation had in a hundred years was like 2 years ago, 4 IND, and it just snapped right back to a GOP majority afterwards.
They're the same party, one is just more rainbow coloured than the other. The DNC are fascist collaborators. They aren't better in any meaningful way and their "reign" will just end up leading to republican leadership 4 or 8 years later
Why are you getting down voted? You are spot on with that comment 👍!
Because this comm is ultimately and unfortunately full of liberals. Comes at the cost of this being an anti-tankie comm which cascades into anti-socialism
lmao, the US-defaultism
This community isn't full of liberals, it's a diverse community filled with all sorts of people with different views. Some are liberals, some are US "liberals", some are anarchists, communists, environmentalists and so on. Neither is this community anti-socialist, if anything, it's pro-socialist.
but sure, blanket an entire community because five people disagree with you.
There's heavy pro-DNC sentiment in here. If that doesn't scream liberal to you, then i don't know what will. Secondly, I'm not even an American, i made a comment specifically referencing the "DNC is better than GOP argument" hence the apparent "defaultism".
Finally, yes it's a diverse comm, i never disputed that fact, but your community is undeniably dominated by liberals who are by definition pro-capitalist and ipso facto anti-communist
If you're not a yank, why are you using their definition of liberal? In the US, liberals don't have any socialist policy, while liberals in the rest of the world all have social liberalism. Heavy pro-DNC sentiment? What? the 13 people who downvoted you? Most of whom aren't even regulars in this community.
I've also never seen anyone in this community actually defend capitalism. Capital, in its current state, is falling apart and proving itself to be unsustainable. Find me anyone who's defending capitalism, and I'll challenge them on that.
I was using the US definition of liberalism because we were discussing a US topic. My fault for not specifying. As for the heavy pro-DNC sentiment, i see it often. There are more Americans than any other nationality combined on Lemmy, and by extension, this community. Therefore, i see it more than I'd expect when this community seemed to have been supposed to cater more to leftists who were critical of the very radical wing.
https://lemmy.world/comment/21430350. Here's a discussion i had with someone a while ago on this comm where they defended capitalism.
Now I'm by no means saying this is the default here, most users here are in fact very critical of capitalism, the problem, however, is that many here think they can do genuine socialist organizing within capitalist parties—who by the way have stopped at nothing to shirk their more radical counterparts. Just look at Zohran Mamdani for example, his policies are no more radical than Polanski's Green party, but democrats were hesitant to endorse him. Nevertheless, there still exists a great many who think organising can be done through the DNC. I still use the term liberal to refer to these individuals: socialist in will, liberal in praxis.
Ah, that's right, my b. Nah, my fault, you were right to use the US definition.
Curious that's the same user and both posts aren't particularly related to tankies.
Holy shit it IS the same user. I never even noticed 😅. It IS quite suspect isn't it