This part is helping me a lot. :) As i said, the fist step is coming here,

Please check my reply to Rimu's comment: I joined piefed’s own Zulip instance (are those called instances ?), do I still need to join yours?

For example, let’s take Wikipedia. I want to do a wiki page but i never tried it. I come to this event, that’s the first step. i don’t ask wikipedia what we will do, i go there. I discover how it works then i decide if it is for me or not.

100% with you on this. But at the same time if I need to login into some 'complex' piece of software (I’m not describing or criticizing the software here, I know too little of it yet, I'm just describing my first reaction to using it) to just be informed of when/where that event is taking place it's more than likely I won't participate in it simply because I won’t get the information.

There is another reason, i may create one later but the fedihacks is for the fediverse and i prefer piefed, there is a conflict of interest. Matrix isn’t good for what i want to achieve. Zulip chat is neutral and have nice feature for organization. :)

As someone who may have succeeded at managing a handful of projects and who may also have impressively failed at managing a few others, I would be tempted to say confusion/hesitation is one of the worst enemy for any project in its early stage, at least.

Also, neutrality may not be that important either (bear with me) and the moment that neutrality turns into hesitation it also instantly becomes a dangerous foe. At least, once again, during the beginning phase of any project.

A project is a passion, or it better be if one wants it to thrive. No passion is neutral. I love with a passion what/who I love. I may even hate some stuff with a passion. There is no neutrality (just my decision to not allow my passion to go uncontrolled ;)

So, to me neutrality is a bit of an illusion and a trap. As you noticed already, we all have preferences. And I think we should be fine with them and learn to built on top of them, together with sometimes diverging preferences.

To make a parallel, it's a very similar problem to what has been happening with too many of our media and journalists for the last 30 years or so.

Many are more or less openly claiming they're just here to inform their readership/viewership as neutrally as possible (objectively, they often say), which is not true: we’re never neutral (nor is our choice of tools) and as human beings we’re always subjects to our own personal biases, even more so when we don’t learn to be aware of them. As a reader looking to get informed by reading newspapers myself, I much prefer journalists who do not try to hide their personal biases and preferences, those who assume them. That helps me spot those biases and find a way to deal with them. For example, each day I receive a few different newspapers with the mail, each one belonging to a different political obedience, only one belonging to my own. In doing so, I’m doing my best to prevent any of them, even more so the one I would be the most tempted to ‘believe’ because we share the same values, to feed me a single undisputed opinion disguised as ‘objectivity or neutrality’ without it being contradicted by at least one other voice. But enough about that.

When you create a project, a collective, the first step is never clear. It is lot hard work.

True that. But if no one takes any initiative… normally, I would have used the word ‘leadership’ but it’s clear you don’t wish to go that road so I won’t ;)

So, if no one takes any initiative, using their own personal passion/energy, even for a short period of time at the beginning, people joining will most likely just be sitting there. Not doing much. That initial initiative is not bound to last forever or to go undisputed,it’ sjust there to be the required foirt push forward.

Here again, it’s probably enough chatting. I will join your Zulip (I’m so generous :p) and if we can discuss anything/start doing something it will be better to discuss it over there… that is, if I manage to learn to use that Zulip thing ;)