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[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

This got an upvote?

Are you open to proposing your master plan?

Ukraine has been invaded. Are you suggesting they do not fight back?

NATO is not war. No NATO country has been attacked. Engaging against Russia directly would put NATO at war with a nuclear power. I cannot imagine that this is your plan.

Not just “the West”, but everybody is on the sidelines as far as direct engagement goes. Most countries are assisting Ukraine where they can. Some to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Most have imposed crippling sanctions. So. “sidelines” is a bit misleading from that perspective.

Even Russia’s allies are “on the sidelines”. You certainly do not see much overt support from China. They have even maintained ( in fact stepped-up ) diplomatic relation with Ukraine.

Or are you trying to imply that the underlying cause of everything here is something other than Russia’s continued invasion? Everybody could truly go back to the sidelines if Russia just left.

The only other path is for Ukraine to win. Are you supporting that or not?

[-] calavera@lemm.ee 77 points 1 year ago

What do you mean by not just the west?

We have almost zero countries on Asia, Africa and Latin America which have sanctioned Russia or sent military aid to Ukraine

This is just related to nato/Europe/global north countries.

Europe is not the whole world

But are they supporting Russia through money or tanks or drones or intelligence? No? Then they're on the sidelines. Like they said.

[-] calavera@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Most countries are assisting Ukraine where they can

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