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"imperial core" isn't a phrase we made up. It refers to World Systems Theory, a theory of international relations invented by a guy named Immanuel Wallerstein which argues that imperial "Core" countries (think the traditional "developed" or "first world" countries. Mainly the US and Europe) have a particular extractive, colonial relationship with "Periphery" countries (think poor, raw material exporting, rentier states like Kyrgyzstan or Nigeria).
Then there are semi-periphery countries which are still tied into the imperial core in some way, but have enough sway economically and geopolitically to kind of stand on their own. They have a different kind of relationship to the imperial core, compared to the periphery (these would be the BRICS countries, largely).
That's a gross over simplification, but hopefully that answers your question.
Edit: Here's a really good explanation of World Systems Theory that goes into more depth
Wasn't aware of this framework, thank you for taking the time to explain it :)
No problem!
Thanks for engaging in gold faith!
To be fair, colonialism is a human trait and it's been proven in every large society time and time again. You think the current US/UK empire is bad but if you look in your own back yard it's the same thing with a different spin.
It is inevitable, humans are destined for this. It's unfortunate but it's what we do.
That's just the propaganda you've been fed. The world doesn't need to be xenophobic or exploitative. These are learnt behaviors.
No man these are facts. Proven, hard irrefutable facts.
Lmao no they're not. Humans are a communal species, it's literally what we've evolved to be.
However acting as if behavioral (or even worse evolutionary) psychology can in any way give a definite answer on what is human nature and what is learnt behaviour, is ridiculous.
There are no factual answers to the question "what is human nature?"
If you look at human history, every civilization has eventually pretty much done the same thing just at different scales.
At some point humans do in general attain that trait, in larger societies.
Keep the group small, it'll eventually grow larger. It literally all happened throughout human history, there are physical artifacts across the globe, all before globalization and communication technologies, and they all generally did the same thing. Or they were one of your "communal" societies that no longer exist because..
Lmao post your academic sources instead of vague gesturing towards human History
I'm being vague because these are common facts. I'm not about to go spend half my Saturday sourcing this for you, to win some kind of online argument lol its nice and sunny outside and I'm planting trees all day and imbibing with you kids on here on my breaks.
Yeah because my time is valuable lol should I need to find a source that proves the sky is blue? Seriously none of this is new or contested, aside from you and your group on here. Y'all need to get educated on history, it's actually really interesting and fun to read up on in your spare time.
You're being vague because you are wrong.
https://www.college.columbia.edu/core/content/mutual-aid-factor-evolution-peter-kropotkin-1902-ce
Just because you're a terrible person doesn't mean everyone else is.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here
Like a Christian deep in the closet talking about how gay people just need to suppress the natural urge all men feel to engage in gay sex, you believe that your internal experiences are universally shared across humanity. Because you are a selfish, deeply evil person, you refuse to believe that there is actually any such thing as a good person at all. You feel smugly superior to the rest of us who refuse to admit we're all evil, without realizing that not everyone thinks like you.
Well I didn't say anything close to what you opened up with. I think you're angry and projecting.
I am none of what you say I am, you simply assume I am because I say things that go against your narrative.
I may seem smug to you because I can easily reject your claims and don't feel the need to prove myself to you. But I'm not, you just seem lost and honestly a little delusional.
I hope you find what you're looking for in life.
yeah but the thing is other countries' policies didn't inspire apartied and the nazis and their holocaust.
the US's exterminationist and segregationalist The US did those thing
Hitler wrote in his diary how good america was at genociding its undesireables, and took it and ran with it
The United States: world leader in being the absolute fucking worst thing in human history since 1619
But that's kind of my point. The CCP engages in almost identical policies and political strategy. It's just under a different banner with a different mascot.
Absolutely fucking wild to go yeah the US Inspired the nazis and aparteid and segregation, but china has the belt and road so its basically the same
The fuck?!
If somebody looks at you and likes a thing you do, and then goes and commits genocide because they liked that you liked their favorite potato chip, does not make you connected to their genocide.
You are fabricating connections while denying reality.
Hitler literally wrote in his diary how good the US policies of extermination and land settling were, and, quite famously, his basis for Lebensraum: the material basis for the holocaust
Get the fuck out of here nazi apologist
You know just because we don't see things in the same (extreme) light doesn't make either of us a bad person. And I'm no nazi apologist but that move on your part leads me to believe that you're a child, like literally an undeveloped, immature, angry child.
I don't think any non-Western country has enslaved a continent, refused to pay reparations for enslaving an entire continent, and continue to plunder an entire continent of its resources.
Japan, China, Persian empire, Egypt, Spain, US, UK, Cambodia, et al.
History is nasty, our goal should be to learn from it and not repeat it.
I'm going to make the bold claim that the Tang dynasty and the Achaemenid empire was nowhere near as bad as the Spanish empire or the British empire and unlike the first two, the second two are still relevant in modern times.
Do you seriously think Cambodia "enslaved a continent"? Like, I think Pol Pot was one of the more destructive leaders in human history, but you're being silly.
Japan was working on it but only partially did it. China didn't. Persia? uh . . . I don't think so. Egypt? No. Spain was part of the overall effort that the US and UK were part of.