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If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When you guys mention the imperial core, what are you talking about? DC? Hollywood? Wall Street? Brussels? London? Paris? Berlin? The Hague? Where is this imperial core you keep mentioning?

[-] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"imperial core" isn't a phrase we made up. It refers to World Systems Theory, a theory of international relations invented by a guy named Immanuel Wallerstein which argues that imperial "Core" countries (think the traditional "developed" or "first world" countries. Mainly the US and Europe) have a particular extractive, colonial relationship with "Periphery" countries (think poor, raw material exporting, rentier states like Kyrgyzstan or Nigeria).

Then there are semi-periphery countries which are still tied into the imperial core in some way, but have enough sway economically and geopolitically to kind of stand on their own. They have a different kind of relationship to the imperial core, compared to the periphery (these would be the BRICS countries, largely).

That's a gross over simplification, but hopefully that answers your question.

Edit: Here's a really good explanation of World Systems Theory that goes into more depth

[-] PutangInaMo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

To be fair, colonialism is a human trait and it's been proven in every large society time and time again. You think the current US/UK empire is bad but if you look in your own back yard it's the same thing with a different spin.

It is inevitable, humans are destined for this. It's unfortunate but it's what we do.

[-] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

That's just the propaganda you've been fed. The world doesn't need to be xenophobic or exploitative. These are learnt behaviors.

[-] PutangInaMo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

No man these are facts. Proven, hard irrefutable facts.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lmao no they're not. Humans are a communal species, it's literally what we've evolved to be.

However acting as if behavioral (or even worse evolutionary) psychology can in any way give a definite answer on what is human nature and what is learnt behaviour, is ridiculous.
There are no factual answers to the question "what is human nature?"

[-] PutangInaMo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

If you look at human history, every civilization has eventually pretty much done the same thing just at different scales.

At some point humans do in general attain that trait, in larger societies.

Keep the group small, it'll eventually grow larger. It literally all happened throughout human history, there are physical artifacts across the globe, all before globalization and communication technologies, and they all generally did the same thing. Or they were one of your "communal" societies that no longer exist because..

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Lmao post your academic sources instead of vague gesturing towards human History

[-] PutangInaMo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I'm being vague because these are common facts. I'm not about to go spend half my Saturday sourcing this for you, to win some kind of online argument lol its nice and sunny outside and I'm planting trees all day and imbibing with you kids on here on my breaks.

[-] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

You're being vague because you are wrong.

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Just because you're a terrible person doesn't mean everyone else is.

[-] PutangInaMo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what you're trying to say here

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Like a Christian deep in the closet talking about how gay people just need to suppress the natural urge all men feel to engage in gay sex, you believe that your internal experiences are universally shared across humanity. Because you are a selfish, deeply evil person, you refuse to believe that there is actually any such thing as a good person at all. You feel smugly superior to the rest of us who refuse to admit we're all evil, without realizing that not everyone thinks like you.

[-] PutangInaMo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Well I didn't say anything close to what you opened up with. I think you're angry and projecting.

I am none of what you say I am, you simply assume I am because I say things that go against your narrative.

I may seem smug to you because I can easily reject your claims and don't feel the need to prove myself to you. But I'm not, you just seem lost and honestly a little delusional.

I hope you find what you're looking for in life.

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