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40% of teenage boys believe women lie about domestic and sexual violence: new research
(theconversation.com)
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Misogyny is certainly a huge issue among young men.
I'm not sure about this research though. It's always concerning when they don't publish the actual data and questions et cetera.
This one really, really depends on the question. Both men and women often lie and say that their partner doesn't hit them. This is pretty well known actually. You'd have to be pretty naive to think it doesn't happen.
Occasionally I'm sure that both men and women do lie and say that their partner does hit them, for a variety of complex reasons. An acquaintance of mine, a woman, signed a declaration to say that her partner hit her and then during court proceedings she admitted that was a false statement. Uh oh. Anyhow, it's certainly a thing that happens.
Does that mean all women who claim to be victims of domestic abuse are liars? Certainly not. But are lies told about domestic violence? Of course.
This is also curious. Obviously alarming, but how does one use violence to resist feminism? I'm genuinely confused as to what is meant by this. If you had asked 15 year old me, not really knowing what feminism is, I would have assumed it meant some kind of armed uprising of women, and yeah I would have said that in that context violence is ok.
I notice that this fiery little truth bomb is tempered to "some respondents". How many is some? I guess 2 at least.
Again, misogyny is a huge problem. It would be extraordinarily difficult to be a female teacher. My son is too young to have encountered this stuff but it's definitely on my mind as we navigate the coming years. However, I think this article is intended to be incendiary rather than tease out the nuance revealed by their "research".
I agree with you, and want to add that parents need to do better about addressing this issue as well. There are a million opportunities, every day, to demonstrate heathy gender roles and start conversations about role expectations with your child.
it means beat the shit out of people for having different beliefs than you. or maybe socially shun, isolated, and shame them.
here on lemmy most of the userbase is totally on board with violence and harassment of people who have different beliefs than them... if you haven't noticed.
I’ve never been hit by a romantic partner. You’re saying that being hit in a relationship is common?
I'm a man and I've been hit by several partners. both long term and short term. I've also been threatened with violence.
i end the relationship when it happens, but it certainly happens.
many people see absolutely nothing wrong with female on male physical violence. the most frrequenty response I get if someone learns about it is 'what did you do to deserve it?' followed by 'well you must have hit her first, women don't hit men unless they hit them first'.
Oh I don’t doubt that it happens, but I interpreted it as “everyone gets hit in a relationship” and that seemed shocking to me.
I’m glad you don’t put up with that. No one should be abused by their partner, physically or otherwise.
domestic violence rates are pretty high man. a quick google says 1/4 women ad 1/7 men experience it.
https://www.cdc.gov/intimate-partner-violence/about/index.html
I've also been stalked twice! I feel like I hit the domestic violence bingo, lol
No, im saying that amongst people who have been hit by a partner, they often lie and say that they have not.
Aah, okay. That makes more sense.
Absolutely, I was so frustrated that I couldn't find the data. They didn't show their working so all I have to go on in terms of believing them is their reputation.
At that age young men usually have no concept of violence rooted in reality at any significant numbers. So they assume young girls their ages mostly don't experience violence while thinking violence is the thing from movies and they are ready to dole that out for things that they don't agree with because they think they can change the world overnight at any price.
So asking this group of people is a challenge in of itself. The data and questions are missing, so I call incitement here in service of distracting from the class war and call it a day.
Maybe call the class war the Epstein wars in the future, I think it has a ring to it.
This was a preview summary of the data that's awaiting publication by the University of Melbourne. It covered 1,100 people aged 13-17, and has been written by the Professor of Educational Psychology & Learning, Faculty of Education, The University of Melbourne.
Right so that's who did the research but it doesn't show the results or their methodology. These are super important things to know!
If they word it like they did in the article I think asking their research question (asked to kids) was itself reinforcing a harmful understanding of gender and the kind of characteristics that can be applied to them. Individuals lie. Entire genders do not. Basically nothing applies across the entire category. In high school (the age of a lot of these respondents) they teach you to watch out for tricky multiple choice questions that sneak in an over inclusive option.