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submitted 2 months ago by mudkip@lemdro.id to c/technology@lemmy.world

Apple appears to have prematurely revealed the name of its rumored lower-cost MacBook model, which is expected to be announced this Wednesday. A regulatory document for a "MacBook Neo" (Model A3404) has appeared on Apple's website. Unfortunately, there are no further details or images available yet. While the PDF file does not contain the "MacBook Neo" name, it briefly appeared in a link on Apple's regulatory website for EU compliance purposes.

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[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm positive, thanks. 2x8GB CL16 DDR5 RAM currently sells for <$250.

E: here's a whole ass laptop for $360

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Stream-BrightView-N4120-Graphics/dp/B0DC6KMWJS/

And it even has ports and shit

[-] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

Intel celeron N150?

I mean, yeah, technically it's got more ram, but that's literally the only thing going for it. I've got a mini-pc server with that exact CPU. It's good enough for what I need it for, by my wife's 5 generation old M1 Air from 2020 trounces it several times over in terms of speed, even with 8GB.

[-] artyom@piefed.social -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

An N150 w/16GB RAM is gonna be way more useful than a A16 or whatever with 8GB. Most people will never touch the potential power of their processor but they certainly will be doing a bunch of shit simultaneously.

[-] encelado748@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

As an owner of both an n150 minipc with 16gb of ram and an m1 8g air I can assure you this statement is false. The first is a toy compared to the latter. You can use it as inexpensive home server, but not as a work machine.

[-] artyom@piefed.social -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I also own both and disagree. But this isn't an M1, regardless.

[-] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

I mean, if that fits your use-case, I'm not gonna tell you not to get it. Plenty of folks just need a machine for scrolling a social media feed, documents, and Youtube.

But anyone who wants more than what amounts to a Chromebook can get it pretty affordably with the low-end macbooks. Effectively tripling your speed for another $200 is definitely worth it for lots of folks, and memory paging is a lot faster than it used to be.

Benchmarks can be hit or miss, but aren't totally useless:

N150: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+N150

Low-end M1 from 2020: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M1+8+Core+3200+MHz

And finally, the A19 they're talking about using: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+A19+Pro

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

These are CPU benchmarks, they don't account for available RAM.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

It's a celery with a 128GB emmc. Even with 16GB of ram it'll be so slow.

[-] artyom@piefed.social -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So pull it out and replace it. A 128GB (like Macs come with) NVMe stick is $50.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Emmc is not nvme. They're not compatible or interchangeable. You'll be limited by the max emmc speeds for storage. It's probably why it comes with an external drive, because they know just how slow the drive is.

[-] artyom@piefed.social -3 points 2 months ago
[-] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Nope, still wrong. It has an e key m.2 for Wi-Fi.

Put up, or shut up.

NVME is not a port. M.2 is a port, and there’s lots of versions of it. You can’t put an NVME SSD into all of them.

[-] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 2 months ago

Which is exactly why I specified "NVMe port" and not M.2

[-] pycorax@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago

What in the world is an NVMe port?

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Jesus Christ... would you drop the pedantry? It's childish.

I mean "what is an Ethernet port? Did you mean a RJ-45 port supporting Ethernet?" "What is an ATM machine, did you mean an ATM?"

Don't be that fuckin guy.

I wonder what he could have possibly meant when he said an NVMe port?

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

What they said

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

here's a whole ass laptop for $360

You’re absolutely right, that is an ass laptop.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

Almost as ass as a an irreparable, unupgradeable $700 Macbook with a phone processor and 8GB of RAM.

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

Now that the neo has been announced at $499 for students with twice the storage of your example, care to reevaluate the overall value differences?

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

At $500 it's not a bad value. Could still do better on the used market.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago

That Celeron ain't got nothing on any phone processor Apple's made in at least the last half decade lol

I'm not sure the Macbook Neo will make sense, but I know for sure that docked tablet doesn't. They're also ass to repair, performance doesn't exist and the screen belongs in 2008.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago

A fancy processor is meaningless without RAM. It's like a Lamborghini rolling on bicycle tires.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And RAM is meaningless without a processor to use it. So I'm saying this MacBook Neo is probably kinda shit for its price, but the Stream is for sure not any good.

For the price of the MacBook Neo, the best device to get would actually be a used laptop. Either an Apple Silicon Macbook Air if you can find one with 16 GB, or some kind of a Thinkpad if you want to have more freedom.

Cheap laptops tend to suck, but used laptops in the same price range can be very good.

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