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For those unfamiliar the Dune series, the Butlerian Jihad was a crusade against “thinking machines”. Ultimately computers, and intelligent or thinking machines, even down to calculators are destroyed and banned. Humans who are trained in complex mental maths become known as Mentats, a sort of human computer. Just, uhh, leave all that shit on IX, with their Axalotl Tanks out of it.

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[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago

The culture was fucked long before no child left behind to be fair. Anti intellectualism was rampant, since before most of us were born, gangster culture and drug prohibition and The Fear made a solid percent of the population criminals and authorized a police state.

City schools are better now than they were in the 80s and 90s, things got real bad in the crime waves.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

Yeah I mean a casual chain can be traced back to the big bang. But looking at the entirety of history, you tend to look for certain let inflection points.

So in my mind, traveling from Present backwards in time, the journey looks like this in my mind:

Present :: Idiocracy 1st :: No Child Left Behind 2nd :: Bush elected 3rd :: Clinton Glass Steagle 4th :: Reagan 5th :: Nixon

I can zoom in anywhere along that timeline to talk about how each event impacted this topic.

Lemme know if you want to explore any of that like for example what did Reagan do to impact education today long after his death.

[-] logi@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Since we're talking sci-fi, this is Asimov in 1980:

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

♥️ That's one of my favorite quotes of all time.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

While there may be some truth in that, I don't think it's accurate to say it's always been there as such, in fact I believe it didn't really start in it's current form until 1971 or so, by design, although it existed before as it does elsewhere, that was the turning point, where big business huddled up and made a long game to seize power, project 2025 is just the recent iteration of that game plan, formed initially by the Business Roundtable.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

I mean we burned witches in the dark ages right, so the behavior dates back at least as far as that.

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