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The latest changes implemented in the Systemd repo, related to or prompted by age-verification laws, have made many people unhappy (I suppose links about this aren't necessary). This has led to a surge in Systemd forks during the last days ("surge" because there have always been plenty of forks). Here are some forks that explicitly mention those changes as their reason for forking (rough time ordering taken from the fork page):

Hopefully the energy of this reaction won't be scattered among too many alternatives, although some amount of scattering is always good.

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[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago

There is no age verification. There’s an optional field for a birthdate, just like there already is for your full name, email address, and address.

[-] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

I'm less concerned if it's age verification or if it's an optional field. The issue I feel is that it's pushing boundaries and normalizing new boundaries.

I'm viewing this with a focus on authoritarian power and manipulation. There seems to be far less resistance to change if it's not immediate. That's why small acts such as "making a joke," creating optional fields or reversing laws can be so dangerous. It normalizes a new boundary that can be pushed further. At the very least, it's enabling the behaviour to push new boundaries.

Focusing on the definition of what it's called seems to distract from what's happened, the response to what has happened and what that could mean in the future for large groups of people's personal identity, safety and freedom.

Authoritarian power and manipulation should not be enabled or normalized.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago

Not every tiny step is an inevitable slippery slope.

[-] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

Minimizing small acts enables manipulative behaviour.

Since 2020 I've spent a lot of my personal time learning about manipulation and learning how to identity and handle manipulators. I've also spent a lot of my personal time teaching others how to identity and deal with manipulators in their personal lives.

After learning so much about manipulation, it's hard not to see how much manipulation has been normalized in our everyday lives.

Ignoring the small acts means letting a new boundary be normalized. Minimizing those small acts is attempting to ignore them. It is important not to enable and normalize the boundaries that are being pushed.

Authoritarian power and manipulators will not stop pushing boundaries. To them, enough is never enough.

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