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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You say that

People need to be educated, and you're not going to change their minds by becoming hostile.

Is a bad take, but then your follow up explanation doesn't really go into detail about the sentiment behind this statement and reads completely off topic. Do you really think hostility is necessary to educate? Like when responding to an ignorant comment, are you yelling at them? As irrational as some phobics are, I agree you're not going to change their minds by flying off the handle and yelling at them or using hostile language. Not only do many people of all opinions respond poorly to that, the ones making bad faith arguments want you to get pissed and make you look irrational. Don't fucking let them.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago

your follow up explanation doesn’t really go into detail about the sentiment behind this statement and reads completely off topic

Are you misinterpreting my post? These are not arguments said by me -- these are arguments that come from bad-faith actors who are polluting what are supposed to be welcoming forums by putting the onus on us to behave politely when they are coming into threads with their nonsensical gish gallop. Here you can read more about this. It's the "You got upset, I win" bullshit that infested reddit and is now infesting Lemmy.

Like when responding to an ignorant comment, are you yelling at them?

Sometimes, yes, and it is not my place to defend my right to exist, and now I'm yelling at you.

you’re not going to change their minds by flying off the handle and yelling at them or using hostile language

Again, changing their minds is not my place. In an inclusive forum, LGBT+ people don't have to defend our right to exist constantly. If someone wants to learn, there are places they can go that won't exhaust a bunch of innocent people trying to exist.

the ones making bad faith arguments want you to get pissed and make you look irrational

Yes, and this is why they need to be removed from this community. They don't belong in a space that is supposed to be validating and welcoming to all.

Don’t fucking let them.

Oh wow, haven't heard this one before a million times from bigots and their defenders. Thanks for the contribution, Dr. Phil. Now go fuck yourself. Reported.

[-] potterman28wxcv@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

It is literally part of Beehaw rules to be nice to each others, cf this excerpt from beehaw rules:

If you aren’t nice, we’ll remind you to be nice. If you continue to be problematic, we’ll escalate from there, but it will be on a case-by-case basis. If your first reply when we ask you to be nice to each other is to tell us to “fuck off”, we will respond in kind.

It is also part of the rules to not be transphobic, cf

we simply do not tolerate intolerant behavior. Being explicitly racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, or bigoted in any other fashion is not tolerated here.

If you find a transphobic post and you feel that you are unable to reply nicely, the correct course of action would be to report said transphobic post.

If you are not content with this rule of "be nice" I'm afraid Beehaw is not for you

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