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Eligible men will automatically be registered into the military draft pool by December as part of an effort to streamline the previous process of self-registration and save money.

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[-] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 3 weeks ago

What?!? Not really.

Of course it is? Saying otherwise is just ignorance of history.

But in my lifetime there has never been a realistic chance of a draft being called, so any objection has been mostly symbolic.

It is not even remotely symbolic. A draft is a very realistic possibility, and the fact that it even exists should be evidence enough. The last draft wasn't even that long ago. President Bone Spur dodged it.

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, I agree that it is now a realistic possibility. When I signed the selective service card in the 90's, not really. For that reason, objection to it now is real, whereas objection to a theoretical draft then was more symbolic.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Of course it is? Saying otherwise is just ignorance of history.

Labeling all of history as always "having a tyrannical leader on the horizon" would literally make the word "tyrant" meaningless.

You're projecting your doomerism for today and then painting all of history with a definition. Doing this just makes the word you're using meaningless in describing history.

It's like a cell phone company that sells three different versions of their "unlimited data" plan. They are making the word "unlimited" meaningless. But the emotional idea of "unlimited" is still heard by their customers in ads.

You're doing that here with "Tyrannical leader". Making a broad characterization that is unhelpful in doing anything but appeal to the emotion of doomerism.

You're not characterizing history correctly. You're not understanding history correctly. You're appealing to the idea of class structures and oppression without using any of the tools or definitions developed to actually describe those relationships.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

It is not emotional appeal, it's recognition of reality that underpins the framework of a government. Things that might be totally acceptable under an Obama administration aren't suddenly disappeared when a Trump inevitably enters office. And you have to account for that when creating new legislation.

The founder of the US didn't have any intention of infringing rights when they created the Bill of Rights. It was written with the explicit knowledge that somewhere down the line a tyrant would enter office and desire to trample basic human rights.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

You just restated your position and then just rambled about things you think help support your already unfalsifiable statement.

I am criticizing your phrase "there are always tyrannical leaders on the horizon" as being vague, unfalsifiable, and useless in describing historical struggles. You said this to hand wave away something the other commenter said. And I'm calling you out for it.

You are using an unfalsifiable statement to describe history. Because if I say "well X leader was good" your statement is vague enough to say "well, after X leader there was Z leader and they were a tyrant by my definition".

Do you understand what I am criticizing now? You aren't actually saying anything meaningful or useful when you said "there is always a tyrannical leader on the horizon"

[-] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 3 weeks ago

I have no idea what your point is.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm not surprised.

Let's start at the beginning. Do you know what an unfalsifiable statement is?

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