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[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it looks like a diversified agricultural community with enough adjacent, distributed housing and shops to cover labor needs in a walkable/bikeable fashion.

very distinct from the moonscapes of monocropped midwest with a single residence, a thousand acres of soybeans, a trailer park hidden behind a grain silo, and nothing to fucking eat except jerky, chips, beer and soda.

[-] beanenjoyer@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Is chinese agriculture not industrialized? Because if it is there's no way that many people work so little land. It's rather a rural themed suburb it seems.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 43 points 1 week ago

industrialized doesn't mean massive plantations. that's more of a feature of settler projects like AUS, CAN, US, Brazil, etc.

the average farm size in china is less than an acre. compared with the US which is ~500 acres. despite them being small, and having less arable land than the US, you could pick just about any vegetable and china produces more than the next 8-10 countries combined. smaller farms with more workers have always produced more food per acre. the prevailing "wisdom" to the contrary ("giant megafarms are more efficient") is only true in the narrow sense of profitability due to being run by skeleton crews of workers with no decision making power and receiving the tiniest sliver of the value they produce.

as a westerner that has farmed in the US for decades and has been lucky enough to farm in asia, the contrast is mind blowing. and they have been farming the same land, in communities, for up to 4000 years.

the settler states and their export plantations are exhausting and destroying their abundant lands in just a few centuries, and the communities around them are already hollowed out and abandoned. food systems that support their communities tend toward looking a lot like subsistence systems, because some land is held back from export commodities for local consumption. even in hypercapitalist, industrialized and capital-intensive Japan, the average farm size is like 2 acres. and in a valley with dozens of commodity/monocrop export farms, every 8 or 9 plots will have a plot just for dense, diversified mixed vegetables for the workers of those other export plots.

most westerners can't even conceptualize what non-settler farming communities look like, because theyve only ever seen their own, very reckless and relatively young land use systems.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Great post, and you're right: I can't conceptualize it. I would like to be able to though

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