99
It's over. Hexbear in shambles.
(hexbear.net)
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.
One thing I hate about the China discourse is "Oh but the living conditions outside the big cities are the REAL China." And it's like, uhh, yeah, it is a developing country??? Fucking assholes
Yep, and because the CPC is actively trying to address the very real urban/rural gap, it's merely a matter of time and effort before this gap is narrowed even more, to eventually eradicated. Even if you point this out to liberals, though, they often take the stance essentially opposing the China of the present for not being the China of the future yet. Their tremendous, rapid development still isn't rapid enough, since China is socialist and socialism is treated with religious purity by westerners it must be perfect instantly or else it's sinful.
This is why dialectics are core to dialectical materialism, and vulgar materialism ends up being similar to idealism.
Yes and it's great that China is now successful in narrowing the gap, but there's an obvious historic materialist and dialectical line of critique against this argument: this would be in arguing, that the gap was not just despite the overall rapid development, but the development was in part only this rapid because of the gap. The Hukou system split the working class: Almost three hundred million people still earn less than half of that which the privileged part of the working class earns, often live in cities yet do not have the right to stable permanent residency and have less access to schools, universities, public housing, pensions and health insurance. That created a flexible and cheap labor pool, reduced the fiscal burden on cities, increased profits, capital growth and investment. These are all things that contribute immensely to growth. So rather than arguing that the development was not rapid enough, one could ask wether it really had to be this rapid, or if it was really necessary to do it this way. I don't know, maybe the answer is that it was necessary, considering the threat from the empire.
Edit: I held back with these thoughts earlier in a thread with libs, since they would misunderstand it, but thought I'd share since we're amongst ourselves now.
Ultimately it's a lot more complicated than any of us would like to admit, and these are complicated problems that both need addressing and careful analysis. Any decision made comes with tradeoffs. The Hukou system is one of China's larger existing problems from what I understand, and while the CPC is trying to address the urban/rural gap and has made good progress, there's a long way to go still.
Yes, I agree and it's important to remember, that every imperial core country is much worse in how stratified their working class is, with for example agriculture often relying completely on very cheap and highly exploited labor from (often illegal) immigrants (eg US) and work-migrants (eg in Germany).