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No, they don't.
They do though. Neither one of them deserves your anger. Be angry at the people who actually set up the system that makes you poor. Not the middle class who has as much to blame as the poor.
The middle class didn't set up the system, but they love benefiting from it.
But even then, my main gripe with the middle class is their insistence that they're blameless and they like to pretend they're on the same side as the poor when they're constantly supporting policies to keep the poor poorer.
Yes, the middle class benefits some form the current system. We want a system that benefits all. That doesn’t mean breaking the system for the people who live a comfortable life. It means making the system support a comfortable life for all.
And blaming them as a block is really stupid anyway because they don’t all vote lock step. These divisions along non-ideological divides are a silly distraction meant to keep people fighting people who are actually on the same side.
You're right, and this idiot is falling for the rich people's bullshit 100%.
How do you change a system set up to benefit a class that is completely entrenched around the levers of power, without tearing down the whole rotten structure?
Fuck you and your million dollar mortgage and your 2nd car. We are not on the same side. We just have a common enemy.
call me a skeptic but I doubt there is someone here with a million dollar mortgage and multiple cars that's just sitting around, reading lemmy.
Like what, they're reading a thread on lemmy on the way to a business meeting in their private car?
Like who are you really yelling at.
That's the "I'm totally middle class" bullshit that keeps popping up here. The average home price in a lot of cities is inching closer to $1M.
And yes, they're on lemmy. Especially the tech workers, who probably do the least amount of work per dollar in human history.
But I work in tech and I rent and don't even own a car.
Git gud
this is 4chan speak.
You’re acting as a pawn for the wealthy ruling class when you think like that.
What a useless bullshit excuse to be hateful and averse to any actual solution whatsoever
I mean the middle class are pretty adverse to the solution as well...
Oh what a cool and hip communist everyone. Look so edgy
How else do you propose to fix a system set up to benefit a certain class, a class which has firmly entrenched itself around the levers of power, without tearing down the whole rotten structure and starting again.
Don't pretend that you are for the current system for any other reasons than "I've got mine, Jack".
Not them but my idea for changing things includes socially engineering different ideas until they corrupt those in power. That's the only way we can really get to the 1%.
I'm not 14 anymore so I won't entertain such nonsense wastes of time
Seems like you wasted time telling me you weren't going to waste time. I guess if that's the level you are operating at I shouldn't be suprised that you're content.
I am not "content" I'm just not a fucking highschooler willing to rehash the same stupid bullshit arguments over and over. Yes, good point about wasting time, further replies will be ignored and you'll be blocked.
PS no one gives a fuck that you're a communist.
Man you really didnt waste any more time on this did you?
Never said I was averse to solutions. I can be hateful and also want to fix the problems.
Yeah the real way to fix capitalism is to hate people with 20% more money than you. Great plan.
Now you're getting it
You're getting nothing though. Scream at the clouds (except in your case they're not even rain clouds, they're actually just people barely better off than you but you're just too fucking stupid to understand it) if you like, you're actually helping the rich people keep their advantage
And how is that exactly?
I mean, so far we've hated the rich for quite some time now and its not really done much.
wow imagine needing to take sides..