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sounds like the guy had been cheering loudly in support of Zverev the whole match, and this was after a couple of hours and the guy legitimately just got really carried away shouting some stupid shit.. doesn't sound like the fan was seriously supporting Hitler or anything.. apparently just a loud moron who needed some attention..
"Shouting some stupid shit" is a really generous description of chanting Nazi slogans.
Yeah I hate it when I’m out having a good time and I accidentally let some Nazi shit slip out! Whoopsy!!!!
in context though? the context that i went to great lengths to provide? you're just ignoring that to try to make an argumentative point..
I don’t think that context excuses nearly as much as you think. At no point in my life have I been drunk or giddy enough to shout God Save the Queen or recite some confederate anthem. And I’ve been damn drunk before.
Sounds like a challenge. I'll bring the Cuervo, you bring the Beam, let's get drunk and sing God Save the Queen!
alright, if that sounded like an excuse to you this morning, i apologize alright.. i was not excusing this moron..
reactionary fuckwits gauging the harshness of language
Idk. I don't think this particular phrase would even enter my mind as something to chant, and I am German. That's not the first time he chanted that, I'm sure. It is taboo for sure, but it's not in the cultural consciousness a lot, there's more "popular" nazi slogans. You'd either have to search your brain for something specifically Hitler related or be very familiar with the old anthem (aka singing it a lot aka being a neonazi).
I do not agree that this is the "most" Hitler thing though. There are so much more famous things, hut they wouldn't fit the situation though.
i think you like to pat yourself on the back, and moreover you like to use things like this as a self back patter
It was probably an American fan(it is the US Open) who thinks that's still the German national anthem... Still good on the player for shutting that shit down, it's a misunderstanding that doesn't need to be repeated.
My thought is that it was an American neo-nazi (it is the US Open) who thought it was acceptable to repeat something he shouldn't have.
Idk, maybe. I listened to the audio, and to me, it did sound like someone who speaks German well. The pronounciations and emphasis sounded very natural. And fans do travel for events like these. Of course it could be an American, but somehow I still doubt it. Is this phrase known in the US?
I've heard it before. I'm not sure I'd know which was the current anthem if you played the nazi one and the current one before today, though.
Yeah, but would you (I assume american) even know enough words to so clearly repeat the opening words? Idk. It's just not something you'd come across often even in Germany outside of history class, german class, or neonazi circles. I assume even less so for non Germany. So that this would be so top of mind for someone to just slip out is just such a strange and unlikely thought to me.
Idk. The phrase is bad, but it wouldn't come up in my top 10 of nazi phrases, so for it to just slip out, I have to to assume that person frequently uses nazi phrases.
Likely we'll never know