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Veganism is Leftism (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Free range, small-scale "production" (disgusting word to use in this context imho) - why would this be any less exploitative than what animal AG is doing in the billions? Sure, the animal is treated better, which is good in a vacuum, but the animal still can neither consent nor object to being exploited. At best, it's a chicken laying eggs for reproduction or for its own sustenance and is robbed of these, at worst it's a cow that's being force-impregnated to give milk, to sustain its calves which it can't, or it's killed for meat. The end result is, whatever way you wanna spin it, a dead or exploited animal.

All these hypotheticals of people having "small-scale productions" or, for some reason not being part of the larger issue at hand just because they raise their own animals, is ultimately just cope to justify cruelty and exploitation. Accept that fact and move on, but at least be aware of what you're doing, or change something about your perspective.

Veganism explicitly mentions to reduce the exploitation of animals in all facets of life, more or less. If you're dependent on animal products because you're living isolated and have no access to other nourishment - sure. I doubt the average Lemmy user is in such a predicament, however. Thus, it's absolutely within the realm of reason to assume that living as a vegan is possible and should be strived towards - especially if you're a self-proclaimed leftist.

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, I misunderstood your intentions. I thought you were against the extermination of all farm animals, who have no way of surviving outside of, you know, farms.

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not so much "exterminating" but more so liberating. Get rid of farm animals but set them free to farms to just chill and live their lives. I'm not sure if this concept exists outside Germany, probably, but we have so-called "Lebenshofe" here - literally translated to "life farm" where former farm animals are rescued to and can find shelter and love. That's the ideal ๐Ÿ’š

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about, mate.

Enforce free-range, but just don't let the food they're producing and not utilising go to waste.

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

No, that's where you misunderstood me. Let them be animals and not products to be exploited

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Apply this logic to human slaves producing transplant organs. If we didn't create them, then they'd never exist; so we are actually doing them a favour by creating them and forcing them to serve us.

It's just cope after cope after cope. I've been there. They are all trying to lead you away from the same place, but that's the place you have to go if you want to be a person who does not commit cruelty and violence against vulnerable individuals.

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Right. So, in this scenario, you have billions of humans that you'll just kill and then say "it's for their own good"?

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