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[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago

That’s basically what humans do too.

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

You're no different from a medieval peasant who projects a kingly father figure into the heavens. The only difference is, you're familiar with a desktop computer, so that is what you project onto the great mysteries of life.

"That's basically what humans do". Bullshit. A computer makes no distinction between the bits it's flipping. An LLM will not protest if you poison the training data and have it generate gigabytes upon gigabytes of gibberish. The computer runs the algorithm you give it, regardless of the output. The meaning comes from people, and you can't automate that away.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago

Similarly, you’re overestimating your ability to think independently of external inputs. You’ve been doing it since you were a baby. You’re organic, and you believe that separates you from man made intellect.

Does it, really?

Now, I’m not one of those people who thinks we’re all robots in human skin. I just think that those of you sticking your head in the sand when it comes to AI are misguided. If it’s a disinformation campaign to slow or stop its progress, I totally understand that there are valid reasons to do so, but I don’t think they will succeed in the end.

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

No, I'm organic and "man made intellect" does not exist yet. I don't think there's anything magical about consciousness, it's a physical phenomenon like any other.

But I am highly skeptical of the claim that all it takes is computation. We don't have a firm understanding of consciousness. We do have a very extensive understanding of computers. It's incredibly wishful thinking to just assume the thing we understand and are surround by also just happens to be capable of a phenomenon we don't understand.

I'm sure one day some clever people will make some sort of machine that reproduces the phenomenon of consciousness. But I highly doubt it's gonna be in our lifetimes.

Some wealthy people who get off on the idea of being the smartest person in the room heard Roko's Basilisk, and because they devalue all humanities and have never considered a philsophical question in their lives, immediately fell into a secularized re-creation of protestant belief where AI is both God and the devil. There's no progress there. Only an overcapacity in graphics chip production, waiting for a market correction.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago

You’re in for a rude awakening.

Lofty words will not change the fact that AI can already do many jobs and will eventually do many more. I understand there are positives and negatives. Perhaps we will find that the negatives outweigh the positives. It doesn’t matter, progress will march on.

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

One consequence is that you can't actually respond to any of the points I'm making, you've offloaded your critical thinking skills.

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

I just think that those of you sticking your head in the sand when it comes to AI are misguided. If it’s a disinformation campaign to slow or stop its progress, I totally understand that there are valid reasons to do so, but I don’t think they will succeed in the end.

You sound like one of those Christians who cannot conceptualize atheists. They cannot consider a lack of belief, rather atheists must believe all the same things they do, they're just mad at god. Similarly, you cannot countenance the idea that AI isn't all its been promised to be, so I must secretly agree with you, but be fighting against the computer god.

this post was submitted on 11 May 2026
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