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Butcher says "as long as there is Vaught there will be supes and it's just a matter of time before one of them becomes the next Homelander" to justify killing all the supes, but the problem as we all know is capitalism and they are literally in a revolutionary moment where they could actually end it with the supes becoming immortal folk heroes but no, mass slaughter because vengeance on the one that he hates is not enough he just wants to kill all the supes out of spite and frankly sure there is an argument to be made for that but that still ain't fixing the rest of the problems with capitalism.

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The difference is that that relies on those walking nuclear arsenals not lying to you, being swayed to corrupt purposes, etc., and the difference between super powers and any of those other things is that you can take away access to a gun or nuclear launch codes but you can't really take away someone having the permanent ability to just like fly you into space at a whim

The existence of expert marksmen, and martial artists, and peak athletes, doesn't mean that communism is impossible because some of us are weak and chubby or missing some of our limbs or whatever.

i would argue the existence of expert marksmen is actually one of the main reasons why those other things are less effective in oppressing people who aren't trained warriors

when all the weapons you've got are swords and bows and shit and it takes literally years of dedicated training (that a peasant literally wouldn't even have time to engage in, if training were even available) that's when you get shit like the german peasant war seeing only a few thousand professional soldiers able to massacre like 20x their numbers (well, the weapons and the training and having no cavalry)

[-] Moidialectica@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

Plus the difference ordinary marksmen and superheroes have are the fact that they're walking armies with everything to gain if they simply exploit society as-is, with all the leverage being a one-person-army, connections to both the state and other superheroes, and a stable life when you uphold the status quo gives you

Superpowers simply change material conditions massively, and the more widespread they are and the more general their use case they become incentivised to, instead, guarantee their own rights as a class of heroes rather than the class of people (and I argue this limits the likelihood of communism as an end-result) and might descend into near feudal conflict, with the ruling class constantly at their throats due to the natural antagonism between them (though this depends on how you define superheroes, where they could even count as producers if you include korean genres)

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