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You're just engaging in fantasy if you think that a gun ban would actually get rid of guns in the hands of Those People. Do you have any idea how many unregistered guns are in private hands, especially right-wingers? It's hundreds of millions.
Now imagine that every one of those was declared immediately illegal. Try to imagine the logistics of going around to collect them all up. How many police officers does it take to bring down one armed attacker now? You know they send a whole squad out. How many do you think it would take to go take away hundreds of millions of guns whose owners don't want to give them up?
It is simply not possible.
You would be better off to buy your own guns than to hold out hope that the fascists will have theirs taken away.
This is stupid. It's like saying we shouldn't ban crack because of all the private crack collections that people have. No one claims it's going to get rid of 100% of crack in the country, but it is going to solve a lot of problems.
Banning guns will have a massive, possibly even overnight reduction in the number of gun deaths and mass shootings in the country (and technically the entire world). Some ammosexuals might try going out with a bang, but once those get cleaned out society will improve significantly for everyone.
But we did ban drugs, and they are still around... including crack
Yeah, but you can’t just walk into walmart buy some crack.
Edit: at least not through the front door
Well..... lmao, have you been by the tire section lmao 🤣😂
Drugs won that war.
Crack gets used up, meanwhile I've got a 75-year-old rifle that still functions, well maybe not fine, but about the same as it did off the assembly line
M1A?
Type 53, supposedly a trophy from Vietnam
I get that you're only replying to what the other person said, but it's so odd to me as an outsider when Americans so often pivot the gun control conversation around disarming the other side when schools, clubs and malls get shot up every other week with several deaths each. I can't imagine getting shot being a possibility in my day to day and watch as everyone gets tangled up in political squabbles, essentially halting any real solution to the real problem.
The issue that you imagine is not our actual reality. Our day to day life in America is very safe overall, and there's no reason to live in fear of shootings because they are very rare. Most people in the USA have never seen a person shot in real life. What you see on the news is amplification of every violent event, without the perspective that these are a tiny fraction of a percent of the overall experience.
Homicides by firearms are not even in the top 10 causes of death in the USA. People keep clamoring on and on about "all the kids getting shot" but when you look at the actual numbers, 99.9999% children are not affected by gun violence. It's simply not an urgent problem that has a viable solution.
I lived in the US for 11 years and know at least someone who was affected by a shooting. I don't think I'm just imagining things.
Well of course some people are affected by it. I said most people have never seen any person shot in real life, in the USA. It's not happening everywhere all the time like people seem to think it is. Violent crime of all types is in fact rare in the USA, only affecting a small fraction of a percent of the population.
There's quite a lot of people affected by it, there's no need to diminish the numbers by speaking in percentages or exaggerating my claims to absurdity. I don't think 52 school shootings last year is nothing--that's one every week. That's too many young people killed every single week. And of course it's not happening everywhere all the time, nobody says that. My point is that getting randomly shot at the mall or at a school on a shooting spree is a reality that exists in the US that's almost non-existent where I live. Unfortunately for us, gun violence from organized crime is very much a problem for us precisely because the US refuses to regulate its gun trade because the conversation always goes sideways.
I'm not saying it'd be an easy thing. I'm saying we should have never let it go this far to begin with and shrugging our shoulders and going "oh well" is less than an impractical solution. It's no solution at all.
You're starting to understand the reality of it. There is no solution to gun violence that can be realistically implemented. We should instead be addressing the problems that create desperate poverty situations that lead people to crime.