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We need the ability to tag users on Lemmy so that when we figure out that someone is a tankie or an anti-Canadian propagandist we can tag them so that the next time we see them comment we know they are a bad faith actor and can respond appropriately (and by appropriately I mean not wasting our time trying to have a good faith discussion.)
EDIT:
NegativeYoda said that Sync for Lemmy had the functionality I was looking for so I checked it out.
It does.
I was able to (temporarily) highlight NY in red like a banned user and tag him as a tankie. This week makes my lemmy experience much less frustrating. I've ashtray done the same (for real) to several obvious bad actors so I don't get drawn into a discussion with someone who has no intention of participating in good faith.
You know, I hadn't heard the term "tankie" before coming to Lemmy/Kbin, and at this point I'm lost again on what it's supposed to mean. I have a general idea but it seems to mostly just be a malleable catch-all for "someone I don't like who possible sort of leans one way a bit on some things". Like how "boomer" has become super over-ueed boogeyman term for "someone older than me I don't like".
Seems like a lazy way to categorize tribally, and group people as "others". Or am I getting it totally wrong?
Tankies are angry leftists. They're the alt-left that the extreme right always complains about. I suspect that many of them are actually neo-Nazi trolls trying to prove that they aren't so bad by cosplaying as tankies. They're bad faith actors.
I'm an angry leftist, but I ain't no tankie. I'm pissed cause I'm middle aged, and have been dealing with over a century of outright lies from the rich.
I'm a pragmatic leftist. I know that being angry and demanding the murder of all rich people and government officials isn't going to happen. We need to get organized like the christofascists are and use the system. Until we do the christofascists will continue to rise.
The only reason I fear revolution is because I fear if my side wins, we'll govern peacetime as we would during war.
Really becomes hard to judge who your allies are when things get ugly, and there are way too many covert narcissists that know how to game their way to control.
There won't be a revolution in Canada. If the tankies try there are only two possible outcomes. The tankies ends up in prison or the tankies end up dead. Your taking about using a few Gravy Seals with military style guns against a national armed forces and police that number in the hundreds of thousands with real military weapons, APCs, tanks, planes, etc. A bunch of military fetishist with murder fantasies don't stand a chance. It's all fun and games until a bullet rips through one of your comrades chests and it becomes obvious that they're shooting white people.
Just ask Ashley Babbit and the idiots that were around her when she died. The attack on the Senate wasn't as fun after that happened.
Tankie is all about embracing the tanks. They're the authoritarian left.
Primary beliefs (all stupid and wrong): the Soviets and People's Liberation Army can do/did no wrong. Russia is still Soviet and still the good guys. Ukraine is a conspiracy from the West that is actually Nazi. Any geopolitical problems are the fault of the West who behaves as a complete bloc and is literally only motivated by the capital interest of billionaires. Africa and the subcontinent are the world good guys (just conveniently ignore literally anything bad that happens there). Lots of Islamophobia.
As with all authoritarians, it's all about conspiracy theories. If you try to argue with them, they simply don't believe counterfactuals or will shift goal posts and start talking about something else entirely.
Most of the angry leftists you encounter, especially in these parts, lean much more towards anarchism. Very different from tankies.
I've been including the ones who want to murder all the rich people and government officials with the tankies even though they don't want to use tanks.
You're not using the word right then. Which will hurt any arguments you make while using it.
Again, it's a pejorative all about embracing authoritarianism. The tankies love government officials so long as those government officials follow any kind of communist kayfabe. The tankies are totally okay with billionaire oligarchs in Russia. The tankies would oppose and protest any kind of violence directed against the government's they like. They adore social hierarchies and loathe western democracy.
And there are plenty of anarchists that embrace violence.
Stick with alt-left or more direct pejoratives.
I include them because they are taking about "revolution" and the only way you successfully overthrow a federal government is by force which necessitates the use of tanks even if they haven't considered the fact that the fetal government is going to fight back with tanks and many, if not all of them, will be killed.
That's not what the word means. At all.
It's about being on the side of the tanks -- specifically the Tienanmen Square tanks. It is literally the opposite of wanting to use tanks to overthrow the government.
I understand how you're using it. I'm just warning you that you are very much going your own way with this word and are going to look foolish if you do so.
Ok. Thanks.
From Wikipedia:
Yes, that's what I said. The tanks are operated by authoritarians AGAINST the rebels. They are not tanks operated by rebels. Tankies will bend any logic to defend and support authoritarian governments so long as they present anti-capitalist.
It is all about authoritarianism. If you call an anarchist a "tankie", you're going to look like you're being totally disingenuous.
And yet, Wikipedia doesn't agree with your opinion.
Look dude, you seem like you can't handle any form of criticism or evolution in your understanding of things, so keep doing it exactly how you want and don't listen to anyone else in this thread or elsewhere trying to help you be a better communicator. Have fun being you.
Thanks, I am!