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[-] artair@lemmy.world 382 points 1 year ago

Absolutely no surprise there. When you keep the barrier to entry low and throw in an algorithm to increase “engagement” via outrage, the soup turns to poison quickly.

This is why every time someone says the Fediverse is “too confusing,” I just smile and nod. That attitude of petulant, lazy, self-imposed gatekeeping is what’s keeping the Fediverse a much nicer place to be.

[-] shinjiikarus@mylem.eu 84 points 1 year ago

If the “hot” and “active” filters continue to work as expected and bots get reasonably moderated or blocked, I don’t even think Lemmy needs a high barrier to entry or petulance. The most important thing is to not optimize any recommendation or sorting algorithm on session duration, ads seen before closing session, and revenue per user.

[-] spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is so true and people seem to have a really hard time seeing this. The cultures on other social sites are far more manufactured than we'd like to believe. I think the human driven systems of Lemmy and Mastodon are brilliant but the true killer feature of the fediverse is going to be an open content recommendation algorithm. A collectively developed non-profit driven algorithm would undoubtedly be better at surfacing positive impact content than either system.

[-] 3rdBlueWizard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Can we use ai to judge emotional content of threads so I can get recommendations for threads where people are relaxed and happy?

[-] OutrageousUmpire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Actually yes and I don’t think it’s a bad idea. Sentiment analysis is not a hard task nowadays. If overused the site would become a bunch of artificial positivity, but I think there could be a place for this. Could be part of a mod toolkit too.

[-] Veltoss@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I definitely don't think something like that should be used to only show one emotion though. If AI were used to control content based on how it makes people feel it should try to balance, not control how we feel. Give us an equal amount of everything.

It's not good to cloak ourselves in only feelgood stories and lies that sound nice and ignore all the bad stuff just because an algorithm wants us to feel nice and cozy. If no one cares about the bad stuff, the bad stuff gets worse.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I'd imagine if it uses the sentiment as a weight but not a gate when selecting what content to boost that would probably provide a good balance. Especially if you get some controls to adjust the weights in the settings panel

[-] spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Unironically, yes absolutely.

[-] 3rdBlueWizard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Well then, I unironically want that!

Too much arguing in discussion forums and not enough relaxed fun.

[-] sachasage@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Completely agree that this is where the really exciting potential is, but equally a potential for misuse as algo development will be a black box to most.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 6 points 1 year ago

Funny enough Hot filtering is currently bugged on small instances.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yesterday it was bugged on world, too. I'd keep hitting next page and seeing half of the same things on every page. It's working better today though.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 2 points 1 year ago

It's been noted on the GitHub. It seems the bug is amplified on small instances. I'll regularly get posts from two weeks ago with no comments on the top of All/Hot when using this account.

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