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China AI and Semiconductors Rise: US Sanctions Have Failed
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this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2023
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Good idea, well said! Much better option to military warfare in my opinion.
Give peace a chance.
Sure, this isn't counter to that
Sanctions are siege warfare.
No they're not. Economic sanctions meet no definition of siege warfare
It's a barricade erected around a country to block the flow of goods and travel and finance, with the goal of subjecting civilians to economic hardship so they turn on their government. It's a siege, with the goal of creating enough pain within the country to encourage internal sabotage, revolt, and treachery.
Sanctions are warfare.
These sanctions would be to ensure the US maintains a technological advantage through prohibiting the export of cutting edge technology. I'm wondering if you actually read what you quoted above before continuing to say this.
If you're interested in actual modern examples of siege warfare, please read on
I just quoted a definition. Here, I'll quote from your link.
How does this not describe a sanctions regime? Obviously the sanctions on China are minor compared to other sanctioned nations, but look at the sanctions on Iran or Russia or Cuba or the Taliban regime. Encirclement, isolation, cutting channels of supply and reinforcement, and the goal in all those casrs is to induce the enemy into submission. Starvation isn't uncommon.
The sanctions are meant to hurt the enemy.
"Starvation isn't uncommon"
Since the whole point is starvation, you should probably expound on how a ban on semiconductor technology exports to China will induce starvation
I was referring to the other , more heavily sanctioned nations that I also mentioned. Obviously.
Oh ok, I didn't realize we had strayed off topic. So it sounds like we're in agreement these semiconductor sanctions against China are not "siege warfare"
I say it's an opening salvo. Do you think it'll stop here?
Just because the siege hasn't fully begun doesn't change what it is at its core.
I'm not buying your slippery slope fallacy, but again, I'm glad you came around
Came around to what? I'm saying this is the begining of another sanctions regime - actually it started with Trump's tradewar bullshit. There's a clear escalation that these wars follow.
In every country they're used, sanctions only ever get worse until the government collapses. Iraq, Iran, Cuba, Sudan, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, DPRK, and now Russia. It's almost always a one way street to worse and harsher sanctions until it sparks a civil war. China is next.
Learn some fucking history.