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submitted 1 year ago by danileonis@lemmy.ml to c/anarchism@lemmy.ml

I recently readed more about it, and the association with anarchy was immediate.

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[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago

How is it greenwashing? Greenwashing is capitalism pretending to be eco friendly. Solarpunk is explicitly anti capitalist.

[-] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

I believe you can use greenwashing to describe more things than just capitalism pretending to be green.

For me especially the type of solarpunk aesthetic that centers fururistic cities, high tech and massive amounts of renewable energies kinda greenwashes the needed extraction of resources to achieve those aesthetics.

Most if not all folks I interacted with that seemed into solarpunk (users on slrpnk.net) where most likely not greenwashing things, but when I just google "solarpunk" my impression is more in line with the person you replied to.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

That's just the aesthetic. Solarpunk is fundamentally anarchist, and aims to end that exploitation, and the structures that feed on it.

[-] Jummit@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I used the wrong wording. I meant to write that it feels a little like greenwashing to me, because I don't have a lot of faith in a "green transition" (not enough materials, exploitation of the global south etc...). But the good thing is that the solarpunk vision can work just as well in a low-tech environment.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

As mentioned, solarpunk is highly focused on destroying capitalism. Ending that exploitation is a major goal

[-] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Solarpunk is very vulnerable to greenwashing, it's happening now. AOC is "solarpunk" FYI. She's cool and all, but when politicians in the imperial core are "solarpunk".... yeah...

There's also a very technocratic susceptibility to exploitation. I see for example, lots of hydrogen propaganda making its way into solarpunk spaces. Basically, it's not super dogmatic, which has lots of benefits but also leaves it to be heavily exploited and co-opted, giving a "solarpunk but capitalist" greenwashing campaign a very easy path

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

I suppose it's possible to hear about solarpunk and misunderstand it badly enough to call yourself one without wanting degrowth or an end to capitalism.

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