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submitted 1 year ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Gee, I wonder how that happened?

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[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As long as social media users and the media keep talking about him and posting stuff about him he will never fade into obscurity. He's like a parasite that feeds off the attention he gets online.

The current state of Democracy in the US didn't just start Jan 6 2021, this is a decades old long con that cumulated on Jan 6.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The dude's body cannot keep this up. If his heart doesn't give out in a couple of years I'll eat my hat.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

He is merely a symptom of the dysfunctional government. There will always be somebody like him and worse than him that will become the new symptoms of this dysfunctional government. Had Clinton, his DLC, and new way Democrats not sold out the party to the right wing, had Bush not normalized constant war with an ever expanding income inequality, and Obama expanding corporate control over government. We would never have had the likes of someone like Trump.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Had Clinton, his DLC, and new way Democrats not sold out the party to the right wing, had Bush not normalized constant war with an ever expanding income inequality, and Obama expanding corporate control over government

What's funny is none of these led to the rise of Trumpism. These are things that you, as a person who disagrees with these Presidents, don't like. You are very unlikely to be a Trump voter based on the above message.

To give things these Presidents actually did that led to actual Trumpist views:

  • Clinton signed NAFTA (which is great, but nativists hate it, which is why Trump made worse-NAFTA but they love it)

  • Bush began culture wars directly, and states voted to change their constitutions to exclude LGBT people during Bush. 9/11 and it's responses created a wave of nationalism, but how much you put that directly on Bush may vary depending on how specifically you blame Bush for 9/11.

  • Obama got credit for the bailout Bush began, because people don't know how Presidential terms work, and then worked to pass the ACA (and was black), so the Tea Party surfaced and brought forth the Hannity/Beck heyday, leading to the resurgence of John Birch Society views.

Trumpism is

A) nativist (America for Americans - be like us if you want to be here)

B) nationalist (America first!)

C) more about feels than reals (Trump does not have policies. He has views)

It's basically the Know-Nothing Party reborn and emerged and exists with basically the same life cycle.

this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2023
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