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Yeah, I wouldn't go anywhere near that far. The N64 is the only console that was ever really top of its class in raw specs. That's never been Nintendo's game, and they've never even tried. And, the FTC leaks have shown Xbox is considered 3rd behind the Switch.
Arguably the GameCube was the most complacent and behind the times console they've ever released and it did extremely well.
The Wii started a huge "motion controls" revolution, and even if it didn't stick around, it was fresh and everyone and their mother was trying to buy a Wii.
The Wii U was probably their biggest failure. They tried to do something new and misread the market.
The Switch also brought something entirely new to the market that has redefined the portable. It sold out like crazy and has done extremely well. I know people who own switches that have never purchased any console or handheld.
The Switch isn't trying to compete with Xbox / PS. It's competing with Gameboy and PSP but also allows you to play Mario Kart with the boys. And it has built an entire new device segment with Steam Deck and a million spin offs at this point.
Local couch gameplay has always been Nintendos bread and butter. They're not aiming for hardcore gamers. And they're still succeeding at exactly that.
FTC leaks show that Xbox is third in what? Sales? Because the Switch isn't even the same generation as the Series X - it's way behind in terms of power. Even if we're just talking console sales, the Xbox hasn't been constrained by hardware in almost a decade. The Xbox environment and Game Pass have completely revolutionized gaming for myself and millions others. Sure, I have a Series X and PS5, but I haven't even turned either on in 6 months. I game on PC, but usually through Xbox Live because they're at the forefront of crossplay (pretty much invented it) and I can play with friends in discord, Xbox One, Series X, Steam, whatever with no problem.
The NES, SNES, N64, and GameCube all powerhouses that directly competed with or were even more powerful than their competitors. They only started neutering themselves with the Wii. Online gameplay on GameCube was great. The Wii was the start of them no longer focusing on power. The WiiU was just a mistake, and the Switch was obsolete before it even released.
Nintendo makes gang busters because they focus on catering to young children. The last Pokemon games were some of the most financially successful games of all-time IIRC, but they're also awful glitchy cash grabs that pretty much everyone hated. Smash and Mario Kart keep the adults coming back, but there's several alternatives to both these days. I don't know any serious gamers that even consider Nintendo to be a serious option these days.
I've got a Switch. Bought it for Smash. After the glitchy online nightmare that was Smash Online, I haven't touched it since. It's been sitting on a shelf collecting dust until my toddler daughter is old enough to play it. Nintendo is a joke of a company these days and a shadow of their former glory. Don't even get me started on how litigation-happy they are anymore.
It's 2023: why don't we have a Skyrim style Pokemon game, or even a fully 3D Pokemon game, for that matter? Nintendo knows their fanboys will gladly accept any dogshit they shovel their way, and then ask for seconds.
"Ah yes, I see your point, now here's a counter argument that completely misses it!"
What is a "serious gamer"?
Tl:Dr Xbox fanboy hates Nintendo because people have fun with their games and that makes him ANGRY! 😤
Where did I say it made me angry that others like Nintendo? I've literally owned every single Nintendo console and have the Smash edition Switch. I'm saying their games are boring and very low effort a lot of the times these days. Zelda is the exception. What other critically and commercial successful first party titles do they have, besides Zelda and Mario? The last few Pokemon games have been the definition of low effort and have bombed critically. Smash was fun but the online was so bad it would have been better off just not even having it. I'm saying Nintendo is a shadow of their former glory and wish they would get their shit together and stop making games exclusively for little kids. They weren't always the children's game developer. I adored the NES/SNES/N64/GameCube. They just are kind of a parody of themselves at this point.
Why should Switch, the handheld console, compete with consoles that are always connected to power outlet. I could make the same argument that consoles are trash because they can't compete with PC specs wise.
Also just because it has worse specs doesn't mean it's s worse. People don't look on the past consoles on how capable were they on graphics front. I agree with you on Pokémon. New games are horrible and don't deserve the praise they get.
I am 30 years old and I have a switch and a Xbox Series X.
I use both, depending on the game I am currently playing. The Zelda gaes on the switch have been awesome and some of the Mario games as well.
The Xbox can deliver better graphics and with this more demanding games, but I cannot play them on the train or on vacation and that are actually the most times where I find time to play.
If I am at home with time to play I am still on the PC playing with friends.
For the price the Switch has definitely given me more value than the Xbox, even though I do like the Xbox.