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Tolerating intolerance
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Exactly: in order to promote tolerance we must be intolerant to intolerance. It's a paradox described by Popper.
Why do people think there's a paradox? Tolerance is a bad policy anyway; the point is to make society accept different races, genders and sexual orientations within reason (i.e. no pedos or whackos) so why even bother with tolerance if you have to dance around it to protect yourself and not be a hypocrite?
You're taking an authoritarian perspective. Fair, but I disagree. Tolerance is important because we as a society grow and evolve due to the discussion of ideas, simple or complex as they may be.
The paradox is that to achieve a tolerant society we must be absolutely intolerant to intolerant ideas otherwise intolerance "wins" and becomes the norm.
Did you just say tolerance is bad, then go on to to describe tolerance as the solution?
An idea does not have to be absolute with no exceptions to have value.
Nah. I said what I said. You're just looking for an easy out so you and the other fascists can feel like they've won something, and you won't. You shall have no victory here.
Huh? Why would think I'm a fascist? Can you explain? Not a single one of my positions or comments is based on hate, oppression, or intolerance (except of the intolerant of course), not to mention I'm trans lol.
Or are you using some idiot's defiintion of fascism?
They think people are responding to the substance of their comment, rather than understanding that people aren't quite sure what the comment is supposed to mean.
I think the issue folks have is that your comment was confusing, as in they didn't understand your point. Then in response to people commenting that they didn't understand WTF you were talking about, you lashed out and had a solitary Les Miserables moment where you stood on top of a barricade of confusion, waving your flag and shouting "FASCISTS SHALL HAVE NO VICTORY HERE." I still don't know WTF you are talking about. Take a few calming breaths, friend. If you write like Edward Albee, at least have the self-awareness that you write like Edward Albee, rather than demanding everyone have a working knowledge of the Theatre of the Absurd. EDIT: Any downvoters want to explain why they downvoted me? If the confusing person's perspective is readily apparent to anyone, why not add to the discourse? I'm not trying to fight. EDIT2: This person is so hot headed and hostile, that I have a sneaking suspicion that they created dummy accounts to downvote me and support the perspective that their point is crystal clear to anyone with half a brain. Can anyone explain this person's point? Bonus points if you might understand why they're so angry?
Or maybe, just maybe, the people around you are not idiots and you can't just feign ignorance to help your little Nazi buddies commit genocide.
Most everyone else seems to know what I am talking about. They understand what you mean by tolerance is acceptance of every idea no matter how stupid or dangerous and that's not how life works. You're just hoping you can lie big and loud enough to convince others that "Hey, this guy is so insistent what this other guy has to say is confusing, so it must be true" without considering you're on Lemmy where the average IQ is higher than freaking potato.
Jesus Christ, you're such an embarrassment to the human race. 🤦
Dude, you are seriously hostile, and clearly think I am your enemy. I read your comment, and I didn't know how to parse it or what your point is. I don't know what you think I am lying about. No one's reaction to you convinced me of anything. I still don't know what half of your point is, nor do I know who you are calling "Nazis" or what genocide you are talking about. I am glad that there are people on here that understand what you are talking about - it feels good to be understood. Perhaps you could assume less. I am not about to pedantically instruct you how to write more clearly, but being mindful of your emotional state might help.
I don't quite understand what you mean, could you perhaps rephrase in another couple of sentences? Edit: I'd still be genuinely interested in an explanation of your initial comment. It might help clear things up.