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Here are the details on the grisly deaths of Elon Musk’s Neuralink monkeys
(www.theverge.com)
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Well thank god this sort of short sighted thinking isn’t prevalent in science or medicine or we’d all be fucked.
*lol a scientist scooped a baby rat’s brain’s out just to satisfy his curiosity about dreams and sleep. You guys think I’m worried about some monkeys dying to help paralyzed people live again, I’m not. Science be like that sometimes, progress of all kinds is built on suffering of some sort, those in charge of the universe do their best to make sure it’s not them. You can hate me and my ideals if you want, but at least I’m not ignorant to the cause and what’s at stake just because I’m emotionally invested in the man behind the curtain.
There's a difference between giving a monkey AIDS and trying to fix it and shoving some toy in its brain causing it to die a slow painful death.
What is the difference exactly? It's both animal testing. It's going to be cruel by its very nature. They're testing on animals because they're not allowed to test on humans. If they could they would.
Everyone here acting like this is all black and white. Without animal testing there's no modern medicine. That is a choise we could have made but didn't. Thousands of animals had to suffer so that millions of people would not. From an utilitairian point of view it's a no-brainer but it's still cruel as fuck and there's no getting around that. Animal testing or no - both leads to individuals suffering unecessarily.
I, for one aren't willing to take the moral high ground here, because I eat meat ie. take part in the chicken/pig holocaust.
I guess I'll take the floor as a vegetarian and say I agree, but that doesn't mean we can't triage the extent of animal trials. Was it really necessary to give monkeys implants? I don't really know how you'd test that system before putting it in people without testing it on animals first. Do we really need this kind of implant? Well, it's a BCI, which lots of teams around the world are working on, so Neuralink would never be the only ones doing trials. As AI get ever better, I think it's important that we have the ability to communicate with it better and maneuver more easily and naturally in cyberspace.