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[-] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Xmpp was a messaging protocol though, is that really comparable to decentralized forums?

[-] theterrasque@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

XMPP was and still is a buggy mess, and the reason Google unlinked it was that while it had a fraction of the legit traffic, it was like 80% of trolling and spam and other crap.

And Google killed xmpp? No, xmpp killed xmpp, if you can kill something that's already dead.

People started using other networks because they got used to

  1. Messages arriving
  2. Messages being readable by the recipient
  3. Media like images actually being shown properly.

With xmpp messages frequently got lost with no error, different clients having different encryption and encoding settings, different ways to encode and decode media... A complete mess.

People using that as an EEE example are clueless, or stupid.

Also, if meta starts federating, it will eventually stop it for the same reason Google stopped talking with other xmpp servers. Because it'll be the source of most of the crap, but very little legit content.

[-] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for an actually reasonable explanation

[-] ErwinLottemann@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, because it was a decentralized messaging protocol, like ActivityPub. The problem in the end was not the 'OG' XMPP Users but the new Google Talk users and how Google treated the protocol. This, theoretically, could happen with 'the fediverse', too.

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