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submitted 1 year ago by JRepin@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/5431344

The enshittification of the internet follows a predictable trajectory: first, platforms are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. It doesn't have to be this way. Enshittification occurs when companies gobble each other up in an orgy of mergers and acquisitions, reducing the internet to "five giant websites filled with screenshots of text from the other four" (credit to Tom Eastman!), which lets them endlessly tweak their back-ends to continue to shift value from users and business-customers to themselves. The government gets in on the act by banning tweaking by users - reverse-engineering, scraping, bots and other user-side self-help measures - leaving users helpless before the march of enshittification. We don't have to accept this! Disenshittifying the internet will require antitrust, limits on corporate tweaking - through privacy laws and other protections - and aggressive self-help measures from alternative app stores to ad blockers and beyond!

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[-] lloram239@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

Antitrust and privacy regulations are all nice and good, but I think the core problems of the Internet is a technical one: We don't have peer to peer connectivity on the Internet anymore.

The whole reason for the Internet to exists in the first place was to connect computers, but for whatever reason, that feature of the net never made it down to the average user. Dynamic IP addresses means you can't find anybody and firewalls/NAT means you can't connect to them even if you do. Even trivial tasks like copying a file from one computer to another have no standard solution on the Internet. This means everybody is forced to services like GoogleDrive or Dropbox as an intermediate. Same is true for chat, video calls and so on. Everything has to go through another service to be usable. The majority of those services don't even use standard protocols, lock the user in, which in turn empowers them to use enshittification.

Until peer to peer connectivity is solved I have little hope for the Internet to get better.

[-] vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

If someone wants to host something, NAT won't stop them. IMO the bigger problem is that most folks have neither time, skill, nor interest to make p2p a reality. I'm a pretty savvy admin, host a lot of services for myself and family, but I don't pretend to be good enough or vigilant enough to run anything public, i.e. mail server, lemmy server, etc, without major security concerns.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

It'd be stupid easy for assholes to hack or swat you if that was implemented though.

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Part of it is the war between security and privacy vs open architecture. The moment you leave your car unlocked some creep will rob you.

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