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I don't want the gov. Touching the Internet. You're asking for a bad time if you do. Commercializing the Internet is from people using it as such. Build your own site and host it. The enshittification is coming not just from the companies that created/own these sites, it's the people who use them as well.
The government "not touching the internet" is how we got here when NN rules were rolled back by that shit eating, giant Reese's cup drinking, FCC chairman that we had under Trump.
Not sure if we can do anything about enshittification though. That is shareholders demanding the line go up and I don't think we can change people's desire for greed.
We absolutely can. Break up every company at 999 mil and we‘re golden. It’s the lack of competition that makes enshittification possible.
Yep. There needs to be a legally mandated market cap after which the federal government automatically supervises the company breaking into smaller competitors.
Or, ideally, liquidated and sold a department at a time to existing competitors, to ensure actual competition.
We have a sane person in this comment section! I love it. Can you please run for some public office?
Oh my sweet, summer child...
Yeah, yeah. Wishes not miracles, and all that. I'll take world peace and a pony, too.
But there's value in discussing where the target belongs.
As long as we're belaboring the point, mehacompanies should be require to sell divisions of their choice (cough Amazon Web Services cough.) to competitors to stay below the market cap. That way we don't create a cliff, but still see things broken up.
The laws and regulations that make these behemoths able to exist should be fixed. Stop putting worse regulations on top of bad ones.
Sounds like we agree in principle.
I'm willing to advocate for the kind of hammer that might scare some of these players into taking legal reform seriously.
I'm perfectly willing to accept other legal solutions.
I am also perfectly willing to support an administration bent on burning down the big players that are fighting for monopoly control.
So who is supposed to regulate corporations? I agree that the current government is not knowledgeable enough and is beholden to corporations. The problem we have is there is no agency that really governs and enforces any kind of rules.
The ‘build your own’ mentality is what got us to where we are. Just look at what Twitter has become under Musk. He is doing what he wants with a platform that was operating in a very different manner before he took it over and decided to make changes. It’s not a real answer to let everyone do what they want.
Btw, that’s how google and facebook get away with all the evil shit they do.
We need a governing body to make better rules for privacy amongst many other things. I agree that the government or even the FCC may not be the right fit. However, we need some kind of of oversight and regulation. Industry will never selflessly give up rights or power if it means they make less money. They only do what the laws tell them they can get away with.
You know what we need? The government sans Judiciary branch to be run by unpaid people. The President? Yeah, he also has to work a normal 9 to 5. Congress? Same deal. Judiciary branch is paid because they have to deal with the absolutely shitty job of interpreting legalese and ruling on major things. And Law school is expensive as fuck.
Maybe if Congress had to work with the layperson and deal with their struggles we would have significantly less shitty laws passed that benefit the people at the top, and hurt everyone else. Because Congress wouldn't be any different than a regular Joe.