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Former President Trump urged Republicans to dig in as a shutdown looms over Washington, arguing Sunday that President Biden will take the blame if the federal government closes. Congress faces a Se…

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[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Eh, it didn't work out for them the last two times they tried. Despite the conservatives decades long war against "the government", their local economies are just as reliant on government spending as anyone else.

A shut down always hits red states harder, they're for the most part more dependent on federal funding for their social care. They typically also have more military bases, government agencies, and defense contractors as well.

So while you typically see more conservative cohesion, even with policy the majority of conservative politicians may not agree with..... the one thing you still can't do as a conservative is fuck with the bag. Conservatives = keep the money flowing, and the easiest way to do that is by capturing increased government spending, not shutting off the tap.

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

their local economies are just as reliant on government spending as anyone else.

Do you actually think they understand that? I know ex-military who get a monthly pension who can't stop bad-mouthing the big bad gob'ment. Or ones who work for government contractors - literally their job is directly dependent on government money - and they are always complaining on how much money the gob'ment wastes on "useless" programs.

What kills me is that Democrats typically let people like these slide by lessening the hurt that they would otherwise feel if something happened to that gob'ment they hate so much. If I am not mistaken, last time, Dems were quick to propose that military members continued to get paid even when the government was shut down. All that does is soften the blow. It actually makes it easier for Republicans to force a shut down because they won't be harassed as much by their military members since they will still get paid. If you're not feeling the pain from a shut down, then you are more likely to support it.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They will get visibly agitated when this is pointed out, by the way. I remember asking someone who was complaining about "all the government waste" and blaming it on Obama at the time : "don't you work for [big defense contractor]? And all their money comes from the government?"

Lots of denial and anger followed. From a simple question that, if answered honestly, will utterly pierce their narrative...

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

We must know the same people! LOL

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My theory is that a certain type of personality gets even more reactionary and "anti-government" the more they are on the dole. They wouldn't want their job/services cut, but they'll complain about "waste" and the supposedly lazy and undeserving having a job/getting some services...{ dog whistle }

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Do you actually think they understand that?

The politicians do, and that's all that really matters. Why do you think corporations give them hundreds of thousands of dollars every year? I can tell you it's not to turn off the free government money.

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