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With all the issues Tesla has (poor build quality, lying about range, blatant racism in factories, Union busting, Elon) I don't know why anybody would buy one. There are several better options at this price range.
There are so many good EV options out there. Pretty much something for most folks. Tesla gets credit for pushing EVs into the limelight, but I'm not really sure why you would get one today with all the things you mentioned.
Also: hostile to independent repair, and terrible for privacy.
I'm very much in the market at the moment but I've not seen the other options in the price range with what appeals to me the most: the quickness and fun to drive aspect. Are there actually others comparable to say an m3 performance?
Even my Volt can do a burnout, every EV is going to have a lot of torque. But in this price range, a Kia ev6 or a Ford Mach-e would be better choices. You also have the Nissan Leaf or the Chevy Bolt for fwd options.
It's not so much the burnout that I enjoy (I'd rather not keep buying tires 😅) as sustained actual acceleration. Which means ideally two powered axles for traction, and at least from what I've read it's hard to beat a model 3 performance for the price. Especially since it comes under the cap for a $7500 tax credit.
I've got a MYLR and the sustained acceleration is terrifying, its very seldom that I floor it.
The M3P must be bonkers since its lighter, lower and more powerful.
Maybe you should check out the polestar 2 if you're interested in a sporty sedan. I seriously considered one of those but couldn't find a good 2" receiver for it.
Pretty much any BEV is going to have a similar driving profile. Electric motors imply the high torque that gives you the crazy acceleration and resistive breaking. It's not really a "Tesla thing", it's an electric motor thing.
Now, some models might not have as much oompf, similar to how some Teslas are faster than others ... but all the ones I know of from GM or Ford are going to be pretty fun to drive.
Seriously. My Nissan Leaf in Eco mode (which limits acceleration) feels peppy and is super fun to drive.
Like others have said, that is an BEV thing, not just a Model 3 thing. Here is a fun video to showcase this (note they are in Colorado, so the vette is slightly hampered).
https://youtu.be/yXfZVq2ZvVo
Oh man, EV drag race protip right there. Just move to Pikes Peak and you'll win more.
If you are against naturally aspirated, yeah.
What's with the fact that the model 3 is the only one to commonly get shortened when it's also the one where the shorthand clashes with a car with way more history, the BMW M3?
I normally wouldn't but figured in context it made sense. But tbf they're similar 0-60 times at least. I'm sure the rest of the handling is significantly better in the BMW, as well as quality, but I'm at 100k miles on my C63 and ready for some lower maintenance fun at this point. Until I can afford a 3 car garage and lift, or something, which probably isn't for a while.
I like the Mach E. It is a ton of fun to drive. I suggest just test driving a bunch. The shortage of EVs is long since over, so you should be able to drive any of them. If you have it in the budget, try out a polestar too. I have heard good things, but it is one of the few I haven't been able to drive myself.
Subaru Solana or whatever it's called. I bought an ascent earlier this year, but it basically came down to splitting hairs when I went with it over the Solana. Absolute blast to test drive that thing, and I'd love to take it down to Moab or similar places.
Probably going to wind up leasing one next year, so I don't have to worry about battery decline down the road
Yes, the Model Y is the best selling car in Norway ever, but your smooth brain knows much better than everyone who has been in the market and purchased one because it was the best option for them.
i feel like people have more than substantiated down thread why it's not a "smooth brain" take to think Tesla cars aren't actually that good relative to other options on the market.
Don't underestimate the herd instinct in humans to have the same shit Håkon does.
I hear that their cars are nice. I would buy one if they made a plug-in hybrid.