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[-] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 69 points 1 year ago

I think my feelings about this can be summed up as "holy fuck". I thought the Dems might try to save him to avoid another budget shit show, but after he lied about them on Sunday and didn't make any overtures to them, they gave him the middle finger as a bloc, and he deserves it.

Right now the Crazy Caucus is effectively acting as a third party spoiler, except they are actually in office, in a position of power.

Will a coalition form, as Hakeem Jeffries put on the table? This could effectively neuter the Crazy Caucus. Will R's actually oust Gaetz and possibly others out of the House? Something else?

Without McCarthy running again or naming a successor, this is a real push-comes-to-shove moment for the R party.

[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What was the lie on Sunday? When I searched for "mccarthy lie sunday" I get a bunch of stuff about Gaetz but nothing about what the lie was.

My jaw hit the floor when I saw this news though. As near as I can tell McCarthy took a huge political risk in giving the finger to the hardliners and working with the Democrats to get the budget through.

As it stands I expect 3 consequences:

  1. Republicans will double down on never working with Democrats.
  2. The hardliners will gain significant power within the Republican party
  3. The Republicans are going to replace him with someone much more hard line

Every Republican will look at today's events and decide that it's political suicide to work with the Democrats. They've just seen that doing so will draw the ire of hardliners and gain no benefit from Democrats and even the leader of the party can get booted for doing so. Very few people will want to risk their careers on reaching across the isle.

Gaetz challenged McCarthy. McCarthy said, "Bring it on." Gaetz brought it and won. So now Gaetz is going to run a few victory laps and every interaction he has with his party will carry an implicit, "Don't fsck with me unless you want to get McCarthied."

Given that Gaetz went after him specifically for working with the Democrats I expect that the Republicans will look for someone who is far less inclined to collaborate.

[-] speff@disc.0x-ia.moe 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The lie is likely a reference to McCarthy going on air trying to pin the potential shutdown on the Dems

https://nitter.catsarch.com/atrupar/status/1708492417001759040#m

[-] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 1 year ago

That's correct.

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