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Israel is hours away from becoming a de facto dictatorship
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Israel won’t become a dictatorship.
Every week hundreds of thousands of Israeli Jews protest these changes (in a country less than 10 million people).
They have a civil war waiting for them if they go too far - and don’t forget that most of these protesters served in the military.
You forget that Israel collects taxes on Palestinians and then doesn’t let them vote and doesn’t give it to the PA, as well as deprives them of human rights. That’s basically a dictatorship for nearly half the residents.
Taxation without representation really rustles my jimmies. I wonder how the US conservatives will react, could get real antisemitic real quick
Illegal immigrants are taxed all the time. In fact, their contributions to social security (but not withdrawals) are the main thing keeping the program afloat. Republicans love taxation without representation if it isn't white folks.
You forget the huge evangelical segment of the US conservative base, they have a thing for Israel
The only source I could find for something like this were instances where Israeli authorities withheld taxes collected on behalf of the PA due to debts incurred by the PA to the Israeli Electric Corporation.
They don’t let them vote because they’re not citizens. You should ask the PA to let them vote.
No, as repeated punitive actions the Israeli government withheld taxes and import fees that the Israel government collected as part of its border control and that were due to the PA, and they withheld what was owed as a way to punish the PA for supporting UN and ICC actions. This created a crisis as PA employees weren’t being paid and caused work stoppages. It doesn’t matter the excuse; the end result is israel collected taxes on a people and wouldn’t give them representation. It’s further violating international law by taking the land under Palestinians’ feet and giving it to Israelis. It’s still a de facto dictatorship even if you try to use the PA as a Bantustan.
Sorry, but if the PA doesn’t pay its debts, they have no right to complain when they aren’t given free money.
Maybe if Palestinians resisted the PA as much as they resist Israel, they would have a functioning government which wouldn’t need Israel to collect taxes for them.
If you’re going to complain about the PA, then maybe you should be upset that the Knesset publicly supported a coup in the PA and armed that coup with weapons, which it then used to stop elections. You don’t get to break someone else’s thing and then blame the victims for their thing being broken.
source?
2006 coup by Fatah against Hamas and the attempted takeover of Gaza Strip. It’s well documented.
What coup are you referring to?
I have never heard of this, and hours of research turned up nothing.
“Hours of research” failed to turn up the 2006 coup by Fatah in an attempt to seize control of the democratically elected PA government? They failed in Gaza but took control in West Bank. The Knesset publicly held discussions and decided to fund Fatah’s coup including giving them weapons. We’re still feeling the repercussions today, and naturally Netanyahu used it as an excuse to avoid any further peace negotiations after he helped fragment the Palestinian leadership in a fait accompli.
The problem is, Israel hasn't waited to become a dictatorship to start acting like one.
Yeah that's all well and good but if the us and UK support one way or the other that's the way that is going to win.
Why would the US support this? In fact, the US has been pretty vocal about its opposition to these developments. Regardless of this though, you greatly over estimate the influence of American politics on internal affairs in Israel.
Also, nobody gives a shit about what the UK supports lol.
You'll notice I not once said the us supported anything either way.
I pointed out the truth of the matter, whichever side the major global powers want to win will win.
Yeah cause that’s exactly what happened in Afghanistan and Vietnam.
It did, they got what they wanted and bailed when it behooved them.
What did they get?
A continued military presence in the area and reason to keep the military industrial complex spun up. Same reason for basically every intervention/conflict/war since the American revolution in the case of the us.
Then why did they leave?
In both cases because they're wildly unpopular and in the case of Afghanistan because it started the war on terrors ability to strike anywhere anytime. Make no mistake the us is still in the area and droning with impunity.