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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A journalist and advocate who rose from homelessness and addiction to serve as a spokesperson for Philadelphia’s most vulnerable was shot and killed at his home early Monday, police said.

Josh Kruger, 39, was shot seven times at about 1:30 a.m. and collapsed in the street after seeking help, police said. He was pronounced dead at a hospital a short time later. Police believe the door to his Point Breeze home was unlocked or the shooter knew how to get in, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported. No arrests have been made and no weapons have been recovered, they said.

Authorities haven’t spoken publicly about the circumstances surrounding the killing.

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[-] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Care to explain further or are we just throwing pebbles

[-] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It looks like you used a catchphrase to grab worthless internet popularity points. We have no evidence, and it very well could have been the cops, or a junkie, or Santa. You're on a public forum, it's not stone throwing to point out nonsense.

[-] clanginator@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They made a quip that referenced a popular anti-establishment song which criticizes police for acts of hate towards minorities.

This person, who was defending minorities, was shot and killed in their home, in the city whose police dept. dropped an actual bomb on minorities less than 40 years ago.

Police have also been known to enter people's houses and perform execution-style killings like this in the US.

How is it irrelevant?

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because a cop didn't kill him

[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

That's called a conspiracy theory.

You have taken a handful of unrelated things and applied them to an entirely unrelated story. With this formula, you could conclude anything you wished to conclude and get people to believe you because people don't give a shit about facts any more.

I would advise people, all people in general, to read some words about the thing they think they know something about, before they go about committing on such things and spreading misleading and false statements.

[-] clanginator@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean yeah it is a bit conspiratorial. Doesn't mean it's irrelevant. They're not making accusations, they're just floating the idea without attempting to present it as a serious accusation. I think that's generally how that comment was perceived, except for you.

The comments on a post about the killing of someone who defended two groups historically oppressed by police (homeless ppl and queer ppl) in a city whose police force is particularly known for such hate.......... yeah, there's gonna be some people being conspiratorial.

Doesn't mean it's an illogical suggestion to make, or one that can't be discussed.

Also:

I would advise people, all people in general, to read some words about the thing they think they know something about, before they go about committing on such things and spreading misleading and false statements.

Enough with the bloviating. Reaaally thought you were crushin with that bit, huh? Yikes.

You literally just can't accept someone making a quip about police violence, that's all that's happening here. Nobodies "spreading misleading blahblah", okay? Ur just being dense.

[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Holy shit. You people are so incredibly out of touch with reality. It scares me.

Just because a story has some words that you associate with other entirely unrelated events does not mean you can reject the facts of the story to make your narrative fit. I genuinely do not understand this drive that people have to change reality to make them feel better.

Fuck - you think that because the city bombed a house forty years ago that police are raiding the homes of journalists and murdering them?? If that sounds like reality to you - PLEASE get off the internet.

I just wish people would stop with this bullshit. This world is crumbling because of the false narratives being floated to the top of internet chatter. Meanwhile, the everyday real stories happening to real people are being diluted and downplayed. People ARE dying. Police ARE murdering people. The evidence and reporting IS out there but it's being ignored.

In the time people have spent commenting in this chat, you could have read the news and obtained something more than a headline about this event. Unless of course you don't believe journalists and prefer your own narrative. I just wish people would fucking use the internet to read about things more than having to comment on headlines without knowing anything at all.

How fucking difficult is it to care enough to comment on a headline but not take three minutes to read the story? Why the fuck do people care about internet karma so much that conspiracies and jokes are more highly ranked than getting the facts straight about the murder of an innocent person?

[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

I would like you to explain how you typed those words in relation to this story.
This case involves what the police had indicated was likely a domestic dispute, in the victim's home, possibly involving drugs.
You're talking about uh, the police murdering the homeless? Seriously. How could you possibly make that connection?
I don't know what you mean by "breaks in this case" when this was posted only 24 hours after the incident. Within 36 hours, the police had identified a suspect.

[-] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Gotcha. That makes sense that you let your fingers do the thinking for you. Anyone with half a brain would have a hard time putting down your words.

[-] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, just you fam.

[-] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 1 year ago
[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

I'm the fuckhead and the guy blaming the cops for murder when there's ample evidence pointing to a domestic drug related dispute and absolutely zero indication of any police involvement is totally fine?

Meanwhile, no one wanted to talk about the cop getting all charges dismissed for murdering Eddie Irizarry. They just wanted to talk about the kids stealing shit from the Apple Store.

This is the problem. No one cares about facts. Just their feelings. Even when they have absolutely no clue what it is they're talking about.
Lying is cool now as long as it fits your narrative, right? Can't allow people to live in the real world anymore because then you might find yourself misaligned with your political ideology.

[-] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I never did that, just pointed out a popular fact.

One bad apple ruins the bunch when it comes to those who’ve been trusted with power

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