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I recently bought a 4k Blu-ray player. My brother asked me if I also bought a fax machine because streaming is "where it's at" . Nah My 4k player cleans up DVDs really nice where streaming has artifacts and banding. Not only is it true ownership but a better quality.
4k streaming is also way lower quality than a 4k blu-ray
That is misinformation. The quality disparity you're both pointing out is from streaming services compressing their media to much lower bitrates to ease bandwidth stress on their servers/clients and has nothing to do with a physical or digital medium.
lower bitrate == lower quality when using the same compression algorithms.
most streaming services are using h.265, same as 4k blu ray, but at substantially lower bitrates
streaming dolby vision profiles are also gimped considerably compared to blu-ray dolby vision
Doubling down on the misinformation, I see. H.265 is a high-efficiency codec, or in other words a better compression standard. Not a static compression level. This is why when you convert media there's an input for quality, even when using HEVC. And you can absolutely stream the same Dolby Vision profile as a Blu-ray with single track double layer.
You're still conflating digital medium with streaming services.
i am more than well aware of all of this. nothing i said is misinformation. same algorithm, different settings. the primary means by which you reduce bitrate with h.265 is by reducing the quality setting. there is no magical way to cut your bitrate by 75% using the same compression algorithm without sacrificing quality. no commercial streaming service is offering video at the same quality level as a 4k blu-ray.
few streaming boxes even support dolby vision profile 7, and no commercial streaming service offers it. so saying you can get it through a streaming service is actual misinformation.
i have literally been doing this shit for 20 years
Your entire presupposition that Blu-ray quality is better than streaming quality by default is misinformation, and I've already explained why.
What does that have to do with digital media?
This is also demonstrably untrue if you take 5 seconds to research self-hosted streaming services.
Plex on Nvidia Shield. EZPZ.
I never said anything in contradiction to this. I don't know who you're shadow-boxing.
OK i see the problem. you’re hung up on the fact that i said “streaming” without specifying commercial streaming services.
however, my context should have been made clear by the fact that i was talking about ripping blu-rays to my fucking NAS, where they get streamed from.
i’m saying “you don’t get the same quality from streaming services as a blu ray”. does that make you happier?
Yup, words matter. I'm not saying this to be snarky or pedantic, I just don't want anyone to think that they're getting something inherently inferior if they want to go digital.
It's also really ironic you'd say this, because I've seen you completely ignore the original context in my thread on another post and could provide it as an example.
scroll up. my very first comment, which is the top level comment in this thread, makes it pretty damn clear.
read the whole context before you go off half-cocked and accuse people of spreading misinformation when they aren’t.
I'll do whatever the fuck I want. Thanks.
Start choosing your words more carefully and it wouldn't be an issue. Your original comment says nothing about streaming and your follow up comment doesn't clarify anything:
I know how a NAS works, but other people might not or possibly even mistake you to mean you transfer media to another machine for viewing. Additionally, I didn't have any evidence to speculate that you knew there was a tangential reason for the quality disparity despite your comment being easily misconstrued.
My very first comment in this thread laid out the correct details you missed and you still debated it as if I said something incorrect. So much for 20 years of experience.
Some people...
let’s think for 5 minutes here.
I meant what I said. If you interpreted this incorrectly, that is your problem. stop trying to pretend someone else doesn't know what a NAS is, they are perfectly capable of looking up words they don't mean. me using a word someone else does not know is not misinformation on my part, it is ignorance on theirs.
learn to comprehend the whole conversation, don’t reply to individual comments like they exist in a vacuum. language doesn’t work if you interpret everything hyper-literally. do you fall apart when people use euphemisms or turns of phrase? because those are far more vague than anything i said.
maybe most importantly though, don’t be an absolute dick to people when you ask for clarification.
Again, would you like me to show you exactly where you're guilty of this in another thread?
The fact you keep repeating this is hilarious, as is your attitude that you're so infallible that there's never any need to correct anything you say.
Your argument falls apart when you look at how you misinterpreted my first reply, too. It happens. If your ego is so hurt that somebody can't clarify something you said without you launching into a full-blown narcissistic meltdown, that's not my problem. Especially when it's misleading at best or unfathomably misconceived at worst.
I'm done coddling your arrogant assertion that I need your permission for elucidating truth and your deeply neurotic misconception that people can't be mislead to form the wrong conclusions no matter the context, as you've literally done yourself twice now.
So you might not know this, but some Lemmy interfaces let everyone see the names of all the accounts that that upvote any given comment.
Now maybe it's a coincidence, but I think stonedemoman@lemmy.world, stonedemoman@lemmings.world, stonedemoman@lemm.ee, stonedemoman@thelemmy.club, and stonedemoman@lemmy.dbzer0.com might be the same person. I could be wrong though, and this could just be a massive coincidence.
I get it though, egos need protecting.
A supporter of misinformation. I see. Not a good look.
Two brand new accounts with no previous activity upvoting him/downvoting me and he wants to pretend he hasn't been alt voting me this entire time lmao
I genuinely meet a good number of pricks, but I don't meet a lot of genuine pricks.
wait a sec, are you using a bunch of alt accounts with the exact same username from various lemmy instances to upvote your own comments?
It's pretty easy to just edit a comment to better reflect what you actually meant, you know?