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[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 38 points 1 year ago

I've heard many papers are published to never be read by humans. It only makes sense that some portion of those papers aren't written by humans either.

I wonder what the overlap is between AI assisted papers and papers with few to no readers.

[-] PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The whole system should get ready for the 21st century.

Most of the scientists arent great writers. It does not make sense to still force them to be a good writer.

Let be fishes be good at swimming instead of climbing trees.

In a modern world where basically EVERYTHING is specialized and no generalist is alive anymore we should make use of language tools.

Hell Chatgpt writes an introduction which is fun to read instead or my overcomplicated bullshit that I would have brought up

Edit: the comment was not related to the OP but to a general chatgpt discussion.

[-] sab@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

One important thing is that you have potential. ChatGDP will write something alright-ish, but it's literally impossible for it to move beyond that. It doesn't have the power of creativity.

Writing is painful, but it also helps us think clearer about our work and contribution. I think it's an important part of the process of doing science, no matter which field. And one gets better at it with training.

I dont need it to be beyond that? It does what I told it. And if I am creative enough to get my preferred output its great. I have still to decide if Ill use it.

Its a tool which can be used by people and helps with work.

I think it's an important part of the process of doing science, no matter which field. And one gets better at it with training

Sorry but this expression is probably a similar one when paper writting shifted to digital only format or when the typewriter was introduced.

Boomer tell me the same with printed paper. "oNlY whEn ItS PriNtED yOu cAn rEaD pRoberly"

Thats bullshit its just fear of the something new and convenience of routine.

Nothing personal against you. I welcome any tool that helps me.

[-] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

So I'm not sure it's helping you.

You would refrain from doing the work of organizing the concept in your head into a clearly communicable explanation of the concept.

I think of it as in another anology.

Compare a screwdriver with a power tool.

Does the convenient solution hinder you from building your house simply because you cant "feel" the strength of the wood while turning the screw in?

i doubt.

The things you mentioned are coming into play when people think of AI as a god mode. As a user you are solely responsible for how to use a tool. If the user overestimates the power of the tool or use it for the wrong things. Its the users fault.

The scientist is still a scientist. Which is the author of the paper. Not gpt because it writes filler text or puts the scientists thoughts into sentences.

The context is still at the scientists plate. If the scientist does a poorly job at reviewing the gpts output. Gpt cant be faulted.

[-] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

A research paper is not bulk work like a house. It's more like a watch, and a watchmaker using a screw gun is daft.

Thats another point. Fair enough.

But still I dont think that science will stall just because of chatgpt.

Journalism? Will for sure. But scientific publications have a systemic problem (like publisher-polism, pubscores etc) And outsourcing writing work to chargpt is - in my opinion - non of them.

[-] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, but using bad tools to do things is going to get you worse results that using the right tools. If we define worse as "less volume" then sure GPT is fine.

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