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[-] Chunk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It's not charity if everyone gets it, it's levelling the field and making society fairer.

I like ubi a lot.

But I think this statement is not true actually. Removing UBI from the argument for a second, if we are children and we go find easter eggs and afterwards we take eggs from everyone and redistribute it so it's more equal that's charity.

Big Bill didn't get as many eggs because he struggled with childhood diabetes.

Fast Francine got a lot of eggs because per parents put her on ADHD meds and she's laser focused.

So if we take eggs from Francine and give them to bill now we're doing charity.

[-] spiderplant@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah that's not how the world works.

It's closer to a school with 1000 students.

1 kid got 10000 eggs from their parents and refuses to share. Ther rest have 0-2 eggs each.

Maybe the students do chores but the pocket money they get only allows them to get 1 extra egg.

UBI is the school giving 2 eggs to every student. Now the egg distribution is more even since most students now have double the eggs or more but the richest students eggs only went up by a tiny percentage.

Is it really fair that one student has more eggs than they could possibly need and many kids have nothing just because they were born into a different family.

If you want to talk about really being fair you probably want to talk about proper wealth redistribution. If you took 5000 eggs off that one student and split it between everyone, every kid would be up 5 eggs. The kid with all the eggs would still have 5005 eggs which IMO is still more than any 1 kid should have to themselves.

I still wouldn't call any of this charity since 99.9% of people benefit from it.

[-] Chunk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Charity: the voluntary giving of help, typically in the form of money, to those in need.

Sure Jan ๐Ÿ˜˜

[-] spiderplant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It specifically says to those in need. If you give it to more than those in need then its not charity.

Maybe you can consider that part of it has a charity aspect but the whole action is not charity.

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