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Iran Helped Plot Attack on Israel Over Several Weeks
(www.wsj.com)
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Fucking great. I hope cooler heads can prevail.
When both sides of a conflict make the claim that the same piece of dirt is sacred to their religion, it's unlikely for cooler heads to get a word in edgeways.
Well, there's also the fact that after WWII, while the Allies were dividing the world up like a giant birthday cake, they created most of these problems: North Korea, Iraq-Kuwait, and plunking a new Jewish country down in the middle of Arabia.
If the Allies had decided that Ohio is a new Jewish country, what would've been the fallout from that?
As much as we seem a step removed from this issue, we made the problem.
New Jewish country? It was a Jewish nation first and Jews have lived there FAR longer than Arabs.
This is more like if the US lost WWII and the axis decided to give the Native Americans back their territories.
Even according to the Bible/Torah it wasn't a Jewish Nation first, it was a "Promised Land" which they conquered.
Also, the concept of a "nation" didn't exist until the late 1700s. There were Jewish tribes in the Levant region, along with a ton of other tribes, many of which were just loose clans of family groups.
I thought Jews were Arabs.
It gets really into the weeds.
As an ethnic group, Arabs trace back to Abraham through his first son Ishmael from his concubine Hagar.
Jews trace back to Abraham through his son Isaac and grandson Jacob, who was renamed Israel.
Ethnic groups don't trace back to single people, especially not ones from fairy tales.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs
Tracing their lineage to Abraham and Ishmael is literally the common element that ties them together as an ethnic group.
Like I said, fairy tales. According to tradition women were also made from a man's rib and people lived for hundreds of years. None of that is real.
Which isn’t really relevant because that fairy tale is the common thing that ties them together. That’s what a fucking ethnic group is. It’s not a race or anything.
Religion, ancestry, and tradition are the big things that join Arabs together as an ethnic group.
Ah, religion...
May the coming nuclear war wipe all forms of religion from the face of the earth. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
So we can finally see peace on this planet 🙏🙏🙏🙏
As much as I agree, that religion makes people do stupid/dangerous/horrible things, both of the world wars were not started for religious reasons. So maybe, there are more things that make people hate each other than just religion.
Religion is seldom the initial cause of wars, but it is almost always used as a tool to motivate and drag the population along with the war effort.
But that doesn’t fit the 2008 new atheist narrative