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Correct. Giving Palestinians the ability to vote Israel out of existence, and turn it into a Jew-hating Muslim theocracy is absolutely the worse option of those two.
Peace cannot begin and end with asking Jews to opt in to suicide.
You conveniently forget that your population is a lot higher than that of the Palestinians and even if all the Palestinians come to Israel it won't happen. So your solution to the problem is to keep Palestinians still in this open air prison, oppress them economically, and with resources, severely restrict their freedom rights, expel them from their homes, etc. Here we are not talking about a small group of people, but a couple of millions.
Current events displaced already 123.000 people, same people are currently sheltering in schools, etc. Soon the whole population of Palestine won't have access to fresh water, electricity, fuel. You cannot even comprehend the extent of this. Have you ever tried to put in the shoes of the people who are living behind that fence. No. Because you simply don't care. Do you truly believe that all of those people are complicit and deserve this suffering. If you are subject to such oppression what would you seriously do?
So tell me now how are you any different from the people who are celebrating on the streets the civilian casualties?
And can you please remind me what exactly you have learned from history, your own history, not too long ago. Do you truly believe long term oppression is the solution and a recipe for peace?
You're not considering the population growth rate in Gaza is considerably higher than in Israel.
The demographic shift would have a massive impact on Israeli democracy, even if a complete theocracy was not immediately on the table.
For comparison, imagine what would happen to any swing state if you introduced 20 percent of voters from deep red Alabama.
How long until books are banned?
My solution to the problem is a two-state solution where Palestinians take whatever Israel is willing to offer at this point.
Palestinians have ZERO leverage in this situation. They lost. The lost decades upon decades ago.
If they loved their children more than they hate the Jews, they would cut their losses and rebuild.
It really is exactly that simple. Because Israel will never budge, and they are getting better and better at defense themselves over time.
Economically, Israel is thriving. They can wait forever. That's the political reality.
And if you think the answer is pulling international support from Israel, consider that China or some other world power would love to have a foothold in that region, and Israel will have have no problem finding other allies if we want to give up access to intelligence in that region.