1098
Swap these please (lemmy.world)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Not to detract from the idea that trucks are dangerous (they most definitely are) but I’m not sure this is the best argument for this. An asshole in a truck doesn’t mean they necessarily will drive their truck down the sidewalk like what is common with assholes on two wheels. 4 wheels will do many other dangerous things. but assholes who ride their two wheels on sidewalks going top speed even at 15 without making room for pedestrians is a valid concern.

[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 year ago

It's also primarily an issue of lacking infrastructure. Two wheeled assholes wouldn't be on the sidewalk if there was a bike lane, unless they're huge two wheeled assholes.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

100% this, the only time I ride my ebike on the sidewalk is when there is no bike lane or separate bike path. Cause if I have to choose between riding on a 45 mph road or the sidewalk I'm gonna pick the sidewalk and just go slower when pedestrians are around.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I unapologetically ride my bike on the sidewalks because I don't want to die. I'm careful not to hit anyone and would love for protected bike lanes to be put in everywhere

[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

An asshole in a truck doesn’t mean they necessarily will drive their truck down the sidewalk like what is common with assholes on two wheels.

Not to defend irresponsible scooter use, but the 'but scooters are more commonly a hazard to pedestrians' argument could (and arguably should) be expanded to include trucks vs. cyclists.

I don't always have bad interactions with motorists, but when I do it's almost always some guy in a truck that feels entitled to drift over into the bike lane while I'm in it, or when there isn't a bike lane, to overtake dangerously- if I have one thing I feel threatened by when I ride my bike, it's not scooters, it's badly-behaving motorists but mostly men in trucks.

If we're going to use the 'I feel threatened by scooters when I am a pedestrian' measure to justify regulating them, what if I feel threatened by big truck drivers when I am a cyclist? Yeah this all ultimately boils down to inadequate infra so not everyone has a safe or appropriate place to be, and these are all real problems- it doesn't make sense to me to decide one of them ought not to be addressed.

this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2023
1098 points (89.0% liked)

Fuck Cars

9643 readers
57 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS