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[-] deleted@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

This is why I prefer socialism over capitalism.

In socialism, I’d be poor and have no choice of what I buy or eat but I can live and afford having children.

In capitalism, where you have freedom, the same rules applies to poor and rich citizens. The difference is that the rich can afford lawyers and are able to lobby to change/break the law on their favor. You don’t.

This is how the cost of living would go 100% up and you wage increase by 1.34% each year.

[-] razza856@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

you do know that under a socialist system worker-owned companies would compete in the market right? you’d still have lots of choice lol

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Could a worker-owned company sell itself to a single person, and become a company owned by one person?

[-] razza856@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Only if the workers agreed to, collectively.

Democracy would decide

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Okay, and what if that single owner then hired some wage laborers who got no ownership stake?

You’d just have socialism that could drift into capitalism?

Also I’ll remind you that in a free market system, a single owner who doesn’t share ownership with his workers, has arrived at that situation through a combination of customer and worker choice. Workers choose to work for non-socialized companies all the time. And there’s nothing stopping people from starting worker collectives in our present system.

So if in the socialist system the workers are free to go capitalist, and in the capitalist system the workers are free to go socialist, then really they’re just two instances of the same landscape of choice. And it would appear the workers have chosen capitalism.

After running my own business for a while, now that I’m working a full time job for someone else I really appreciate how I don’t have to think about ownership and I can just go home.

My company even offers a worker ownership plan in the sense that I can purchase stock in the company at a reduced rate.

But I’m digressing. My point is this free choice boundary between capitalist cooperatives and socialist cooperatives, where in each system people can choose to enact the other. And the result of all that is that people have chosen capitalism. Not just governments, but companies and individuals. They’ve just decided it’s an easier life working for wages, than trying to start or join a worker’s coop.

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