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[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Better? No. People much more experienced in negotiation and more knowledgeable of the history than you or I have tried for decades. The Arab League rejected the first offer, which remains to this day the best offer, in a UN vote. They never wanted Israel to exist and they still don't, and yet it does. Compromise is not a solution here; the British knew that in 1948 when they refused to enforce the partition plan. I hope to be proven wrong some day, but from my perspective, the only solution is for one side to win.

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

One non-solution would be totalitarian secular governments like Egypt in both Palestine and Israel, and to immediately jail jihaadists and ultra-orthodox who make the slightest suggestion of violence. But instead there's a flawed democracy in Israel where Likud relies on the violence against Israel to gain support and a jihaadist totalitarian government in Gaza.

I dk man, sounds like a cop out. I’m pretty sure if Israel just stopped doing war crimes hamas would eventually lose support in Palestine.

Laying back and embracing the final solution your proposing just doesn’t seem like the right call.

[-] Evilsmiley@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

You could as easily say israel would stop bombing palestine if hamas stopped doing terrorist attacks but then were just going back 100 years of back and forth tbh.

Point is that if israel did what you said today, the violence towards them would not stop. And just picking one side and unilaterally ignoring everything bad the other side has done is literally just feeding into this shit

Actually I can’t. I don’t remember Israel blaming hamas when Israel let Israeli settlers kick Palestinians out of their homes.

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, the current government tacitly tolerates illegal settlements. It's terrible. Prior governments saw them for what they were, an obstacle to peace, and understood they had to be stopped. There's a difference between Likud and the far-right batshits that have been able to barely cling to power, and the entire country of Israel.

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