An Israeli airstrike kills 19 members of the same family in a southern Gaza refugee camp (apnews.com)

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[-] stifle867@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

I'm sure the ICC is keeping a close eye on what transpires during this war. Perhaps, it's too much to ask that the perpetrators of war crimes face the consequences of their decisions.

[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -12 points 1 year ago

People use the word war crime incorrectly so often it has no meaning.

Read the article, there was no war crime. They missed their target and this family was hit.

People have lost how shitty war is for everyone. War is awful.

People also need to learn the rules of war and stop saying everything is a war crime.

[-] stifle867@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I think you need to read it again, there are multiple instances of war crimes reported.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

Can you cite which one you think is a violation?

Also cite the corresponding rule you think was violated ?

Civilians getting killed is not an automatic violation of any rules.

[-] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Can't speak for him, but off the top of my head....

Article 49 of the 4th Geneva convention accords:

49: Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as
deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the
territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country,
occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or
partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or
imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not
involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of
the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is
impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall
be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area
in question have ceased.

The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations
shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper
accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that
the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene,
health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family
are not separated.

The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and
evacuations as soon as they have taken place.
The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an
area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security
of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.
The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its
own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

I don't hate Israel, in fact I think it is in America's best interest to protect our ~~spy network~~ assets. Though, I will not stand for people making misleading statements about war crimes. We can do better.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

I don’t see how 49 has anything to do with air strikes.

49 is about moving people from an occupied area.

[-] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I don’t see how 49 has anything to do with air strikes.

It has to do with an active warzone or areas hitherto, which Israel just declared.

Keep in mind, I am not even looking at their past, I am looking at the here and now and seeing what they are doing,

49 is about moving people from an occupied area.

Which Hamas currently.... occupies... the southern part of Israel.

Unless Israel is just fighting civilians, then we have a whole other set of war crimes.

[-] TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Are going for points on mental gymnastics?

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

Are you going for points by adding nothing to the discussion ? Do you think you added any value by trying to throw out a worthless quip?

In what way is there a war crime? In the article they clearly show there wasn’t a war crime.

[-] stifle867@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Sure thing, here's one:

Hamas also took dozens of Israelis hostage

And the corresponding war crime is:

Article 8 - War Crimes 2. (a) (viii) Taking of hostages.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/RS-Eng.pdf

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Correct.

They are also threatening to execute hostages which is also a violation.

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