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"Deprogramming" the Trump cult
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Stop mentioning Hillary. She’s old news. She’s as relevant to 2023 politics as hunter biden.
No kidding, I don't know why she feels the need to insert herself in this year's politics with this super divisive "cult deprogramming" language/narrative. Not that a lot of folks don't need to step down from the rhetoric of violence and demagoguery that's a big part of MAGA, they absolutely, do... but seriously, Hillary, you are such an unnecessary bull in the china shop on this right now. Like her or hate her, I think it's a pretty objective statement that bringing the temperature down and bringing people together just isn't something her presence and choice of language in this debate is going to accomplish.
She shares the blame for Trump being elected. She campaigned shittily and she was a shitty candidate. The DNC conspiracy to prop her up as the chosen nominee is also to blame.
Those elements combined with Obama hate from Trumptards and the Russian propaganda all over social media produced the result we got.
That literally IS Russian propaganda.
No, it really isn't. She repeatedly made comments that upset me. Every time I listened to her speak it made me not want to vote. She refused to take any real stances on issues I cared about other than bland platitudes. Whatever the opposite of "get out the vote" is what she did.
It's not Russian propaganda that she was a terrible, unlikable candidate. I know myself and a half dozen people who voted for her and hated doing it.
What, anything short of just absolute love for her campaign and candidacy is propaganda?
She made some serious mistakes in her campaign, and even before that she was probably the most divisive Democrat in the country - she was a poor choice for that reason alone if nothing else. They were banking on people voting for her on a combination of "first female president" and "Trump is a buffoon". And if you don't think the DNC made moves to explicitly prop her up as a candidate regardless of the primary vote I'd point you to my state.
In my state, she got about 35% of the primary vote and Sanders got over half (Sanders even won in every single county, it's not like they won different parts of the state or something). A local attorney who ran as a protest candidate got a quarter as many primary votes as Hillary Clinton. So from the vote Sanders got 18 delegates and Clinton got 11. Which means she only got one more delegate from my state than Sanders did. Because superdelegates. Literally all the superdelegates for the state went to Clinton, and that was one more delegate than Sanders got for only having a bit more than half the vote.
Because of superdelegates, she would only ever need around 30% of the primary vote to win in any state. And superdelegates in several states pre-declaring they would vote for Clinton acted to depress the Sanders vote.
WHAT??? ARE YOU SAYING CROWNING HER THE VITCTOR BEFORE VOTING EVEN STARTED SUPPRESSED OPPOSITION TURN OUT????? Never, blasphemy you are a disgusting Bernie bro obviously. Must be sexist for not wanting the first female president. It was her turn.
In all seriousness I'd love to vote for a woman. Just give me one with some integrity and a real platform please. I would of gladly voted for Warren as white toast as she is. She at least has some real stances I agree with.
She's arrogant. Simple as.
Well, did she insert herself here or did someone do it for her for clickbait
Probably because she's not planning on running so she can say what she really thinks without giving a fuck about whether it offends some people's delicate sensibilities?
Came in here to say basically this. The fact that they used Hilary as the image for this articles headline killed any credibility instantly. She is not relevant and hasn't been since she lost. There is zero positives to bringing her up. Unless you want an example of exactly how not to run a presidential campaign.
I just clicked because I wanted to be sure she wasn’t running in 2024
What? You mean to say it isn't her turn?
Let’s get someone under 50.
Best I can do is 69.
I saw the link was from Salon.com... as relevant to politics as TMZ is to climate change.
The thumbnail with her in it made sure I wasn't going to open the article. Her bullshit backroom campaign from the primaries through the election gave Trump the Oval Office.
Yes let's all continue ignoring the people who were warned us about the dangers of a Trump presidency.
Surely she doesn't know what she's talking about. Also she is not wrong.
But you know fake internet points on a reddit knock off matter more, apparently.
Literally everyone with half a fucking brain knew Trump would be terrible. The fact that she was so unlikable and ran such a bad campaign that people didn't bother to show up and vote for her tells you everything. She needs to shut the fuck up, and disappear.
The mere sight of her face makes me not want to vote Democrat. I never was one, and her attempts to shame me into voting for her only made me think about that more. The "big tent party" needs more than fear mongering to win elections. I don't really care for Joe Biden either, but I didn't feel ill voting for him. He didn't tell me I owed it to him, that I had to vote for him or I was deplorable. He at least said a few things that made me want to vote.
I’m not saying she’s wrong. I’m saying she’s irrelevant at this point. if for some reason you don’t like this social network, you should go back to Reddit