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Civilian deaths are indefensible, whether done by Hamas or Israel | Rajan Menon
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for what it's worth i think we've about exhausted what can be said on this topic past your own comment; i don't think further responses between you and @khalic@beehaw.org will really go anywhere and i've already nuked a bunch of the discussion downthread because it devolved completely.