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Zero shot. But it's a nice thought.
Liz Cheney was probably the last “traditional Republican” they had and they made an example of her. Kevin picked country over party and that led to his ousting. Who’s going to side with the Democrats now?
The craziest part about McCarthy is that (I would argue) he still choose party over country but the crazy members of the party couldn’t see that. He knew a shutdown would have been devastating for their image, but all the extremists could see was working with the enemy.
Good points. McCarthy thought he was picking party and country, but his insane coalition wouldn’t see that.
The crazies prefer hurting the other party to both party and country.
I agree, but so far the extremists have been proven right. Their way or the highway has, so far, worked for them to get them to where they are at: minority rulers within their party.
They are, but they're also destabilizing their party with petty squabbles. They haven't reached some kind of political equilibrium where they can keep doing this indefinitely.
The Soviet Union seemed like it was here to stay right up until the moment it suddenly wasn't. Things happened very fast over the course of just a few days, and everyone was blindsided by it. I think the GOP might be heading for that same situation.
Definitely won't last forever, but hard to say how long they have. Hoping things fall apart for them sooner vs later so we can actually have a functioning government.
That's also why McCarthy took the very first opportunity he had to slam the democrats after the bipartisan vote to get the temporary funding bill through. He was trying to prove that he still hated the dems, but that wasn't enough for his party.
Exactly. They made Liz fucking Cheney persona non grata in the Republican party. The patients are running the asylum now. There's no one behind the wheel of that clown car.
It's not hard to find five Republicans from a moderate district full of Never Trumpers. They would secure their seat voting for Jeffries and see their own legislation get pushed through.
If the moderates voted in the primary, perhaps.
They should, but I don't think they do.
I would personally love to see that happen, but I think it's unlikely. It would probably be more likely to get a more conservative compromise Democrat as speaker of the house, but only after the Republican party festers for another week or two.
Ok Charlie Brown, try and kick that football! I'm rooting for you.
So who are they and why hasn't Jeffries been elected yet?
GOP House rules, they won't vote until they have 217 votes.
I get the cynicism but I could see an outcome where Democrats provide support to a moderate (or Jeffries with 5 Republicans) in exchange for passing a few things with broad support. And then the speaker resigns and Republicans go back to beclowning themselves.
Something like a deal to elect a speaker for enough time to pass aid to Ukraine and Israel and another continuing resolution to keep the government open beyond the 45 days. Something like that. Then back to where we are now.
Excellent usage of the word beclowning.