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[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It truly is if someone is not understanding how much of it is a myth. Look up the "Protestant Work Ethic" and how this has been used to justify wealth gaps and labeling the poor as lazy. It is so ingrained that many people don't even know that it is a thing and still believe it

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[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 14 points 1 year ago

So what is it called if someone is 35, lives with their parents, and has never had a job in their life? Not even a part time job or anything. Literally never worked for a single dollar. Not trying to start a fight, just genuinely curious and want to learn.

I had a friend like this and the only word I could find to describe him was lazy. Eventually I had to cut him out of my life for completely unrelated reasons, but this was where he was at the last time I talked to him maybe 4 years ago.

He would complain that he had no money to buy things and have fun with friends, and I would suggest something like a part time job at a fast food place, or a grocery store, or anything. And he would say no because those types of jobs are beneath him, and he wants a good job like being an artist for video games. But he wouldn't take the time to learn those things and develop those skills. He would just play video games for 16 hours a day, only taking breaks to eat and smoke weed, and then go to sleep, rinse and repeat.

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Too bad you are getting a fight /s

Crap I hate when nuance gets in the way. So yes laziness can exist on an individual basis. Though would you call this lazy or did his parents fail him. Providing an environment where he was rewarded/coddled without having to put effort in. Also I find that sometimes people like this have undiagnosed mental health issues and are self medicating.

What we are talking about here is laziness as a concept when applied to a group of people. The poor for example. Where is it not their willingness to work that keeping them down, but giving them the label of lazy is justifying not providing them with the opportunity/help that would let them succeed.

If you want to learn more about it. Why it exists, and how it is used to justify the rich and the poor. I would recommend the freakenomics episode. Once you understand it better. You start to see how loaded some of the language and idea society takes as fact are. And by the end you will wonder why are you working so hard.

https://freakonomics.com/podcast/is-the-protestant-work-ethic-real/

[-] DocCrankenstein@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Too me it sounds like an artist who has been shackled by the system, became mentally unwell and began self medicating with weed, but still prideful enough to know that working for the sake of working is wrong and refuses to do it.

I can relate, it sounds like me. Used to be a prolific musician and artist. Loved using my hands. But life had other plans and a lack of medical access cost me my hands. Yay genetics! Now I can never do what I love again and must accept that I must toil my days away just to survive because I could never make my passions profitable. I don't even know if I have undiagnosed mental issues, can't afford to get that checked or fixed even if I could get it checked.

People who spout that others are lazy are blinded to plight of others.

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