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Iran has told Israel through the UN that it will intervene if the country’s operations against Hamas in Gaza continue, a report has claimed.

Israel has warned 1.1 million people living in the north of the enclave to evacuate ahead of an expected ground operation in Gaza with the IDF planning to strike the territory from land, sea and air.

Iran’s involvement could be through a militant group from Syria or by backing Hezbollah to join the conflict, diplomatic sources told Axios.

Meanwhile, Iran’s foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said that Israel’s operations could cause fighting to expand to other areas of the Middle East which would cause Israel to suffer “a huge earthquake”, reported the Associated Press.

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[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Armenia is a Russian ally. They fucked themselves with that one.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 1 year ago

You mean, Armenia chose to make Turkey part of NATO in 1952? Oops. That's because you are an obvious lying piece of dirt. Get outta here.

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How is that even relevant? Armenia was part of the Soviet Union in 1952 up until 1991. After its independence in 1992 Armenia signed a security treaty with ex Soviet states which is now part of the CSTO. You don't need to be part of NATO to ally yourself with western countries, Armenia could have pursued security guarantees with other western nations. There is also the often overlooked aspect of Armenia expelling Azeri people from their lands and invading land that is internationally recognized as Azerbaijan which probably didn't do them any favors post Soviet dissolution.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

How is that even relevant?

That's relevant because "the West" is already allied to the biggest genocidal state in the region, which rules out all the most direct ways of security cooperation. Armenia didn't have any real options but Russia in the 90s. And at that point even the second Chechen war hadn't yet happened, so even in dreams Russia was better than Iran.

And the reason Russia is bad now is not because of it being against "the West", but because it's not really an option. It's just directly hostile not only to NK, as we've already seen for the last 3-11 years, but also for Armenia itself and its independence and even existence.

And also I don't think I've heard or read anything which would suggest that Armenia ever got any offers from "the West" to "choose" from.

There is also the often overlooked aspect of Armenia expelling Azeri people from their lands and invading land that is internationally recognized as Azerbaijan

Azerbaijan started a war and lost those in a counteroffensive. Armenians have the right to defend themselves.

Azerbaijan had a simple way to get those districts back very quickly - take an obligation that they won't attack again. Look up all the peace propositions since the ceasefire and till 2020, the Armenian side basically agreed to all of them, even really catastrophic ones (like swapping Meghri for NK). Each and every proposition was rejected by the Azeri side.

They didn't want to do that, they wanted to become stronger and finish what they've started. Which means that Armenian prolonged control over those districts was entirely justified (by having a more defendable frontline, which still didn't help due to Armenian/NK military being rotten to the bone).

Also FYI Azerbaijan controlled large swathes of Armenian (as in RoA, mostly in Tavush) and NK (mostly Shahumyan and Getashen) territory since the first war till 2020 (and still does, of course), somehow nobody talks about that occupation. And, of course, Azerbaijan expelled more Armenians than NK expelled Azeris. Pogroms, mass murders, expulsions etc against Armenians were the reason NK declared independence in the first place.

In short, that aspect is not "often overlooked", it just doesn't give you anything.

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