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[-] erwan@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

If there was any potential in a "metaverse", it would be picked up by people who know how to make something fun. In Silicon Valley or somewhere else.

That's not happening because the metaverse is pointless. Most people prefer having multiple tabs in a browser to do online shopping, chatting with friends, etc rather than moving a 3D avatar from a virtual supermarket to a virtual cafe.

[-] drlecompte@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

If computer interaction benefited from being more 'like reality', then Microsoft Bob or any of the countless other attempts to create a reality- and/or 3D-based computer interface, would have caught on long ago.

[-] lloram239@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The thing is, computer interaction can benefit quite a bit from a 3D space. I really liked what Microsoft did with WMR Portal and how it let you organize your apps simply by placing them in a 3D space, meaning you could have a cinema space with all your video related apps, a stack with games that you were playing, a stack with games you finished, etc. You could have frequently used webpages pasted to the walls. You could just grab the things, resize them and put them somewhere else. It was far more intuitive than any 2D interface I ever used and extremely customizable to your needs.

The problem was that it was also incomplete and unfinished in a lot of other ways and Microsoft just gave up on it. Outside of WMR Portal there has been surprisingly little effort into building good VR user interfaces and even less when comes to actively taking advantage of the 3D space (e.g. plenty apps still use drop shadows to simulate 3D instead of making the buttons actually 3D).

Will be interesting to see how well VisionPro does in this space. They seem to be a lot better with the basic UI elements than everybody else (e.g. dynamically lighting them to fit the AR environment and using real 3D), but at the same time, their focus on a static sitting experience without locomotion drastically limits how much advantage you can take from the 3D. Their main menu so far looks more like a table-UI stuck to your face than an 3D UI.

[-] flipht@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

This describes what I want - being able to have relatively blank walls/spaces that light up and fill up with content when you're wearing the headset.

[-] drlecompte@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

This has been tried and tried again, and it never catches on. Computer interfaces that are completely detached from physical 3D space are just much more flexible and easy to use.

[-] frog@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

That’s not happening because the metaverse is pointless. Most people prefer having multiple tabs in a browser to do online shopping, chatting with friends, etc rather than moving a 3D avatar from a virtual supermarket to a virtual cafe.

Realistically, the only thing you'd actually want to do in the Metaverse is something you can't do in real life, utilising the features of a virtual reality computer generated environment to do things that are physically impossible. If only there was some way you could use a computer, with or without a VR headset, to fly a spaceship, use magic, and explore beautiful environments. There could even be these computer generated characters that could give you ideas about things you could do and places you could go, by giving you a reason to go there and do those things, and all of this could tie into a narrative element that turns it into a kind of interactive story, so you've got a reason to keep engaging with the computer-generated environment and characters. And maybe you'd get some of that cool computer-generated swag while you're there, which you could dress your avatar in...

Hmmm... there could be money in that idea. Someone should try making something like that.

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